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Old 11-19-2024, 11:35 AM  
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Chiefs will need to adjust and figure this out
Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?



A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:16 PM   #61
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I don't understand why in all of this we aren't just dialing up more short game like they did to calm down Alex Smith. If you trust Hopkins, Kelce, Gray, Juju and Worthy to get heads around and hands up why not get into a rhythm early. It negates the long looping pressure that's been killing us, lets Mahomes rifle it and moves the chains.
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:20 PM   #62
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Wanya Morris is perfectly capable of playing LT.

I've also said this for years that Patrick doesn't trust the interior OL and it started the season that Wiley (I believe that's who it was) was playing guard and stepped on his ankle and hurt him. He rarely sticks in the pocket anymore and it makes our OTs look way worse. This has allowed speed rushers to just rush around the tackles and they know Patrick is gonna be within grasp, because he's gonna bail from the pocket or drop back really far a lot of the time.

It was why OBJ didn't look very good here.
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:24 PM   #63
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Wanya Morris is perfectly capable of playing LT.

I've also said this for years that Patrick doesn't trust the interior OL and it started the season that Wiley (I believe that's who it was) was playing guard and stepped on his ankle and hurt him. He rarely sticks in the pocket anymore and it makes our OTs look way worse. This has allowed speed rushers to just rush around the tackles and they know Patrick is gonna be within grasp, because he's gonna bail from the pocket or drop back really far a lot of the time.

It was why OBJ didn't look very good here.
How do you fix it? We've allocated about as much resource wise as you can. You just roll with Creed, two Meh guards and hope for an all world up the arc tackle?
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:24 PM   #64
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At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…
Obviously there is no guarantee one will be there to be had

But if there is, I'd really rather just trade for a proven youngish vet if at all possible... tired of the guesswork game and learning curve with draftees at that position, just gimme a guy with a proven record and be done with it
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:29 PM   #65
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Looking ahead… genuine ask so please don’t shred me…

Kingsley’s biggest issue seems (to me) to be kicking out correctly and getting beat outside or inside on the double move when he over-compensates late to the outside.

If he fails to develop that aspect of his game, could we consider slotting him in at RG should we let Trey walk in FA, or LG if Thuney is a cap casualty? Does Kingsley project well at OG?
I don't see why not, thats where a lot of failed tackles end up
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:33 PM   #66
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How do you fix it? We've allocated about as much resource wise as you can. You just roll with Creed, two Meh guards and hope for an all world up the arc tackle?
Have the QB stay in the pocket.
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:36 PM   #67
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This is my new thing I won't shut up about.

Wanya Morris is perfectly capable of playing LT.

I've also said this for years that Patrick doesn't trust the interior OL and it started the season that Wiley (I believe that's who it was) was playing guard and stepped on his ankle and hurt him. He rarely sticks in the pocket anymore and it makes our OTs look way worse. This has allowed speed rushers to just rush around the tackles and they know Patrick is gonna be within grasp, because he's gonna bail from the pocket or drop back really far a lot of the time.

It was why OBJ didn't look very good here.
I agree.

I've never really thought on the cause, but I've said for years, going back to the OBJ season, that Mahomes makes his OTs look worse than they are.

Yes, he makes magic happen back there but he gives with one hand and takes with the other.

You take the good with the bad here and when he's ripping the ball confidently you get MUCH more good than bad. But when he's playing like he has at times this season, he's just another part of the problem rather than the solution.

It's not Deshaun Watson bad or anything - that guy would make Orlando Pace Jr. look pedestrian. But he makes an OTs job pretty difficult at times.
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Old 11-19-2024, 02:40 PM   #68
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Pretty sure that was Erving who stepped on Mahomes’ ankle. IIRC, they had him at LT at that point. Want to say it was the Texans reg season game in 2019.

Unless it happened multiple times and I missed it..
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Watching Trey struggle massively against good DT’s doesn’t help. Barmore kicked his ass last year.

Idk man. Thuney is clearly better than Trey, especially in pass pro. We’ve had capable RG’s in Zach Fulton, LDT and even Wylie.

I think that money needs to go somewhere else. We could also draft a capable starting RG in rd 2 as well if truly needed.
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An added wrinkle of not paying Trey is that you’d have to replace both G positions within the next two years.

That’s a tough ask while also needing to find an LT. And re-stock the WR room.

All while drafting at the end of the 1st lol
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An added wrinkle of not paying Trey is that you’d have to replace both G positions within the next two years.

That’s a tough ask while also needing to find an LT. And re-stock the WR room.

All while drafting at the end of the 1st lol
Nourzad is already in house, move Kingsley over and boom there ya go... go buy the most proven LT you can find, Brett
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Teams rarely give up good left tackles in free agency. The only realistic chance of getting long-term stability is through the draft. Otherwise we are just looking at another OBJ situation.
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Teams rarely give up good left tackles in free agency. The only realistic chance of getting long-term stability is through the draft. Otherwise we are just looking at another OBJ situation.
You're absolutely right, its very rare and it'll be rare again this offseason

But a guy can dream, because when it comes to drafting them its sooo hit and miss that we may never have that spot settled for the rest of Mahomes career
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The other teams get paid too.

Mahomes has made a living clowning people moving around the pocket.

Rather see this now than have it sprung on us in a playoff game.

So thank you Buffalo.
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