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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:21 PM   #7441
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:21 PM   #7442
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You're really curious about this, eh?
When you're driving I-44, there's not much else to think about. It's just weird.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:29 PM   #7443
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When you're driving I-44, there's not much else to think about. It's just weird.
Are there really that many shops? It seems like there are only a couple, but they have billboards for hundreds of miles advertising them. I remember seeing signs for some adult "superstore" for literally over 100 miles and thinking it was really going to be some huge place. When I drove by, it was just a little building that looked like a shed.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:30 PM   #7444
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My wife and I were talking about those places on our last trip to St. Louis. With the advent of the internet, I can't help but wonder how these places stay in business? Are they really covers for some other kind of activity (massages with happy endings? strip shows? gay hookups?), or are they truly just porn shops? If it's the latter, I don't understand how they're actually proliferating in the days of free internet porn.
I am with you on that, and just assumed they provided "happy endings."

Maybe it is just me, but I can't imagine explaining to adolescent children during a trip to Grandmas, what those places are.

An occasional one you could just look the other way and ignore, but wow, those things are as thick as Mc Donalds.

Truck traffic?
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:36 PM   #7445
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When you're driving I-44, there's not much else to think about. It's just weird.
Please don't forget the fireworks, walnut bowls and caverns. The Mrs. and I really do plan on stopping at one of those caverns one of these days.

We never stopped at the worlds deepest hand dug well in Greensburg, so we hope to learn from that lesson.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:38 PM   #7446
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Are there really that many shops? It seems like there are only a couple, but they have billboards for hundreds of miles advertising them. I remember seeing signs for some adult "superstore" for literally over 100 miles and thinking it was really going to be some huge place. When I drove by, it was just a little building that looked like a shed.
I will try and get an accurate count for you Thanksgiving weekend, as we head to Tablerock.
It will be between St. Louis and Springfield. I am going with over 10.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:47 PM   #7447
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I will try and get an accurate count for you Thanksgiving weekend, as we head to Tablerock.
It will be between St. Louis and Springfield. I am going with over 10.
I love tablerock. Have some friends with a badass houseboat there. Little cold in November, though.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:50 PM   #7448
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Oklahoma wants Louisville
Texas wants WV

Politicians are now involved with Senator Mitch McConnell (R) calling in a favor to get Louisville in the Big12.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:53 PM   #7449
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Politicians are now involved with Senator Mitch McConnell (R) calling in a favor to get Louisville in the Big12.
WTF .... just get both.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:55 PM   #7450
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Politicians are now involved with Senator Mitch McConnell (R) calling in a favor to get Louisville in the Big12.
Yeah - MU is foolish to leave these guys...
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:56 PM   #7451
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Politicians are now involved with Senator Mitch McConnell (R) calling in a favor to get Louisville in the Big12.
That worked out pretty well for the Big IIX last time.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:57 PM   #7452
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Politicians are now involved with Senator Mitch McConnell (R) calling in a favor to get Louisville in the Big12.
. You're kidding, right?

The hypocrisy of how people were talking about the Big East/schools like TCU before it became a reality of adding them is amazing.

And now this? No way.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:58 PM   #7453
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Yeah - MU is foolish to leave these guys...
Yep. Jack Harry brought up a good point what does KU and KSU want or is it just all about Texas and Oklahoma?
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From the Times sports pages:
A late push by Louisville has put political pressure on the Big 12 athletic conference and opened the possibility of Louisville being the university that is admitted instead of West Virginia. Two people with direct knowledge of the situation said lobbying by Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) including of David Boren, the president of the University of Oklahoma and a former senator, helped slow West Virginia’s admittance to the Big 12.
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