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Old 04-25-2024, 09:24 PM  
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Old 04-26-2024, 07:39 PM   #706
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Flowers is a more explosive route runner, elite change of direction.

Worthy is more pedestrian. Better comp is a tiny Gabe Davis.
On a positive note, we know longer have to discuss who the league viewed as the better WR between Worthy and Mitchell. :P

But you were right about the kid from Oregon... jesus he's slid.
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Old 04-26-2024, 07:57 PM   #707
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This! I said that early last year. He’s literally the only other drafted QB since Mahomes that I was like “Damn!”
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Old 04-26-2024, 08:22 PM   #708
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I didn't criticize him as a GM. He is obviously one of the top 2 GMs in the league.

He struggles to evaluate the WR position. The one receiver he drafted that hit, he drafted after Mahomes worked out with him before the draft, and gave him the Mahomes seal of approval.

He has used 3 picks on WRs before this year that were actually high enough to expect something.

One is a massive hit. One is just a bust. One is a pretty average return for a 2nd round pick.

Saying they “struggle to evaluate WR” is just a stretch.
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Aren't you one of those people that think the NFL is rigged?
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He has used 3 picks on WRs before this year that were actually high enough to expect something.

One is a massive hit. One is just a bust. One is a pretty average return for a 2nd round pick.

Saying they “struggle to evaluate WR” is just a stretch.
You forgot to mention that he has to pick 29-32 each year. It’s not like we had his complete option every season.
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Old 04-26-2024, 09:43 PM   #711
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He has used 3 picks on WRs before this year that were actually high enough to expect something.

One is a massive hit. One is just a bust. One is a pretty average return for a 2nd round pick.

Saying they “struggle to evaluate WR” is just a stretch.
It's not just about who he drafted. MVS sucked. Period. We overpaid by a lot for 2 years of crap.

Yeah, Toney had the punt return in the SB, but Veach actually said he could be a WR1. That's a ****ing joke. That's something an old drunk at the bar shoyts as he is getting kicked out for being belligerent.
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It's not just about who he drafted. MVS sucked. Period. We overpaid by a lot for 2 years of crap.

Yeah, Toney had the punt return in the SB, but Veach actually said he could be a WR1. That's a ****ing joke. That's something an old drunk at the bar shoyts as he is getting kicked out for being belligerent.
MVS played 2 years here and came up big in the playoffs for both of them. Worth every penny.

Toney was a great dart throw that just didn't work out. It was a late 3rd round pick. Nobody could've seen the drop off from last year to this one.
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Old 04-26-2024, 09:51 PM   #713
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It's not just about who he drafted. MVS sucked. Period. We overpaid by a lot for 2 years of crap.

Yeah, Toney had the punt return in the SB, but Veach actually said he could be a WR1. That's a ****ing joke. That's something an old drunk at the bar shoyts as he is getting kicked out for being belligerent.
doesn't mention Juju at all and his contributions in 2022
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Old 04-26-2024, 09:51 PM   #714
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This kid tracked over-the-shoulder deep balls and ran better routes at 18 years old than Hardman can after a half decade in the NFL. Anyone insinuating that Worthy is another Mecole doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground in terms of football.

This thread will get bumped for the next 15 years, just to laugh at the clowns who dissed this pick.
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MVS played 2 years here and came up big in the playoffs for both of them. Worth every penny.

Toney was a great dart throw that just didn't work out. It was a late 3rd round pick. Nobody could've seen the drop off from last year to this one.
I did.

And what drop off? Hes always sucked. Always.
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It's not just about who he drafted. MVS sucked. Period. We overpaid by a lot for 2 years of crap.

Yeah, Toney had the punt return in the SB, but Veach actually said he could be a WR1. That's a ****ing joke. That's something an old drunk at the bar shoyts as he is getting kicked out for being belligerent.
I sure wish the Chiefs could evaluate receivers as well as you. If they could, they might win a superbowl.
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I did.

And what drop off? Hes always sucked. Always.
The Chiefs traded for him midseason and all he did was make plays when healthy, then all of a sudden he couldn't catch or even make a play after a full offseason.

I'm sure you saw all that coming though, disphit.
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It's not just about who he drafted. MVS sucked. Period. We overpaid by a lot for 2 years of crap.

Yeah, Toney had the punt return in the SB, but Veach actually said he could be a WR1. That's a ****ing joke. That's something an old drunk at the bar shoyts as he is getting kicked out for being belligerent.
Dude - we knew what MVS was when we went and got him - he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Did he underperform from his average at times? Yes. But did he also make some of the biggest catches in clutch Chiefs games? Absolutely. (22 vs JAX TD in the 4thQ to put us up 2 scores 27-17, 22 vs Cin TD in the 3rdQ to break a 13-13 tie, 23 vs Bal 3rd and long 4thQ first down catch, 23 vs SF in SB to give us the first lead of the game at 13-10 in the 3rd Q - off the top of my head) Can the Chiefs improve at that position? Most Definitely and they did yesterday with Worthy and a few weeks back with Hollywood.

Toney was a gamble - kid has incredible skill. He could still turn it around, but chances are he will be another one (contract) and done in the league. Veach is great at finding gems and getting the most out of them. Sometimes when looking for diamonds you find glass.
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