WTF is with Mahomes?

[petegz28]

Since the Super Bowl the dude has not looked right. Now he is just flat playing with his head in his ass.

I think he needs to get over himself a bit. He has 2 critical INT's this season that are 100% his fault that he had 0% reason to every try and it cost us points, 1 game and maybe 2.

[poolboy]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Are you some kind of Patriots-turned-Bucs fan ****tard?

No but thanks

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Patrick is not turning into a dump off QB no matter how much they try to make him that way.

Andy should have kept calling plays like we have in the past instead of trying to neuter this offense and our QB.

The slump starts with Andy. There is zero rhythm in the play calling. Our receivers were all graded poorly yesterday and the running game sucked when we needed it.

This is really dumb. They're literally leaving EVERYTHING else open EXCEPT the deep ball, and you think they should keep firing the deep ball. Into double coverage. While Patrick gets crushed by the pass rush. Bad idea.

Run the ball and hit the outlet passes, eat them alive, death by a thousand cuts until they start cheating up. Then you can hit the deep ball some.

Patrick hasn't been mature enough, or patient enough to hit these short and intermediate throws. The tape doesn't lie; they're there. They're open. He's just being stubborn.

[poolboy]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

This is really dumb. They're literally leaving EVERYTHING else open EXCEPT the deep ball, and you think they should keep firing the deep ball. Into double coverage. While Patrick gets crushed by the pass rush. Bad idea.

Run the ball and hit the outlet passes, eat them alive, death by a thousand cuts until they start cheating up. Then you can hit the deep ball some.

Patrick hasn't been mature enough, or patient enough to hit these short and intermediate throws. The tape doesn't lie; they're there. They're open. He's just being stubborn.

exactly, Brady would take those those outlet passes all day long until boom

[dirk digler]

Here is a 2nd quarter play where Pat should have let it rip to Hill. He ended up scrambling right and throwing it out of bounds. Hill was plenty open going across the field.

One thing I am noticing is Kelce is getting mugged alot.

[Chris Meck]

Mahomes will never be Alex Smith.

But until he can make defenses pay for basically leaving everything open EXCEPT the deep ball, he doesn't get to do Mahomes things. He needs to learn to be patient, and be a little more mature about taking what's available. And the Chiefs need to make a real commitment to running the ball too. It's that simple. It's not complicated. It's a defense that's been around for decades. It just plays against this new breed of young QB's tendencies, and until they grow up, they're not going to stop running it.

[the steam]

Mahomes isn't getting the help from YAC or help from the refs that he's got in seasons past. A throw that was 6 yards and 40 more for a TD in the past seem to be 6 yards and tackled immediately the last few weeks. 3rd and 7 incompletions last year we got a ton of def holding and PI. This year they just turn into punts and fgs.

[dirk digler]

Here is a bad decision. Everyone is at least double covered except for Hardman standing over there by himself. He throws it Hill for the long ball incomplete.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Did you guys fix this piece of shit yet?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

This is really dumb. They're literally leaving EVERYTHING else open EXCEPT the deep ball, and you think they should keep firing the deep ball. Into double coverage. While Patrick gets crushed by the pass rush. Bad idea.

Run the ball and hit the outlet passes, eat them alive, death by a thousand cuts until they start cheating up. Then you can hit the deep ball some.

Patrick hasn't been mature enough, or patient enough to hit these short and intermediate throws. The tape doesn't lie; they're there. They're open. He's just being stubborn.

Such hyperbole- I didn't say any of this. Pat did throw it short last week- check his targets-lots behind the line because that is what the defense gave him.

He threw short this week too- and Kelce along with Mecole dropped the ball.

My point was- you don't take the most dynamic QB in history and try to make him Alex Smith. We had that kind of QB and he sucked.

15 to 20 play drives are Not sustainable. Chiefs need to play their game and force the defense to change, not the other way around.

When the game was on the line- we won because Mahomes did what he does. Alex would have checked down short, punted and hoped to hang on.

[poolboy]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Such hyperbole- I didn't say any of this. Pat did throw it short last week- check his targets-lots behind the line because that is what the defense gave him.

He threw short this week too- and Kelce along with Mecole dropped the ball.

My point was- you don't take the most dynamic QB in history and try to make him Alex Smith. We had that kind of QB and he sucked.

15 to 20 play drives are Not sustainable. Chiefs need to play their game and force the defense to change, not the other way around.

When the game was on the line- we won because Mahomes did what he does. Alex would have checked down short, punted and hoped to hang on.

maybe thats whats up until he figures it out and comes out of his funk

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Brady is the dump off king. Nobody hits the RB in the flat like Brady. His ability to read D's pre-snap is elite.

I've been waiting to see Mahomes step up in this department. It's not necessarily being a check down QB. It's being efficient by extending drives by being a first down QB. It's not like Mahomes can't do it at all. KC has several long drive TD's this year. (The first series against GB was awesome!) We just need a lot more consistency.

In a nut shell keep that defense on the field and they will wear down. The big plays will come!

This is what every radio sports guy keeps repeating. Except it is not that easy. 1 dropped pass, 1 bad run, a holding penalty, then we are forced to take those middle-of-the-field chances where the defenses are waiting.

Andy is so dammed predictable-that is the problem. When the running back gets 7 yards on 1st down, he calls deep shots instead of keeping running until they stop us. His gadget plays have been embarrassing. The NFL has caught up with Andy not Mahomes.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by poolboy

maybe thats whats up until he figures it out and comes out of his funk

Mahomes is getting 95% of the blame and the rest of the shitty offense, play calling, dropped passes, bonehead receivers not doing shit, dumb penalties at crucial times--are all getting a pass.

Mahomes is stepping up and putting it all on his shoulders. That is what leadership is about.

So yeah, until the rest of the team stops handing the other team INT's, fumbles and easy coverage assignments- it is going to be tough going for Mahomes.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Mahomes is getting 95% of the blame and the rest of the shitty offense, play calling, dropped passes, bonehead receivers not doing shit, dumb penalties at crucial times--are all getting a pass.

Mahomes is stepping up and putting it all on his shoulders. That is what leadership is about.

So yeah, until the rest of the team stops handing the other team INT's, fumbles and easy coverage assignments- it is going to be tough going for Mahomes.

Yeah man the receivers and the tackles are totally getting a pass right now. No one's talking about them at all. Totally.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Such hyperbole- I didn't say any of this. Pat did throw it short last week- check his targets-lots behind the line because that is what the defense gave him.

He threw short this week too- and Kelce along with Mecole dropped the ball.

My point was- you don't take the most dynamic QB in history and try to make him Alex Smith. We had that kind of QB and he sucked.

15 to 20 play drives are Not sustainable. Chiefs need to play their game and force the defense to change, not the other way around.

When the game was on the line- we won because Mahomes did what he does. Alex would have checked down short, punted and hoped to hang on.

You're literally saying exactly this.

The reason an 'Alex Smith' sucked is because he wouldn't take the deep shot when it was there. That will never be a problem with Mahomes. But the deep shot is NOT there, and he's throwing it anyway, when there are receivers open short with a lot of green in front. It happens multiple times a game now.

Defenses know he wants to chuck it deep so bad he will do it no matter what. You have to make them pay for that.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by -King-

So you enjoyed watching the back to back 3 and outs and multiple punts? The 36 combined points we've scored the past 3 weeks must have been exhilarating for you.

I enjoy watching this team bounce back from adversity and make people like you look foolish that's what I enjoy.


I've said it before and I'll say it again under Andy Reid this is a resilient team and 2015 we were 1-5 and all but calculated out of the playoffs but we wheeled off 10 wins and a playoff win. **** you cry babies.