*****The Creed Humphrey Thread*****

[Dante84]

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Humphrey grew up watching the Sooners and wrestling like his father, Chad, who grappled at the University of Central Oklahoma. The first-team all-state pick at Shawnee High School redshirted in 2017 before taking over the starting center spot in 12 of 14 games played in 2018, when he earned Freshman All-American and honorable mention All-Big 12 honors while helping the front five win the Joe Moore Award as the nation's top offensive line. Humphrey sat out spring 2019 practices due to injury but was ready for the fall, garnering Rimington Trophy finalist, second-team Associated Press All-American and Big 12 Co-Offensive Lineman of the Year accolades as a 14-game starter. The 2020 team captain and 11-game starter was named a third-team AP All-American, Big 12 Offensive Lineman of the Year and first-team all-conference center as a junior. He accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. -- by Chad Reuter

Overview
Savvy, game-wise center with below-average length, good core strength and a full slate of intangibles desired at that position. Humphrey is praised inside the building for his outstanding leadership and having the recognition to make all the calls up front. He's more of a positional blocker than fork-lifter but has the core strength to neutralize and stalemate blockers at the point of attack. He's not a plus athlete but he's athletic enough as a move blocker, with the ability to work his feet into position to finish blocks after contact. He plays with a nasty streak when needed, which will appeal to offensive line coaches, but his overall profile might be more "steady" than "star." Humphrey is a solid, safe selection and should become a longtime starter.

Strengths

• Three-year starter and two-year team captain.
• Undeniable team leader and tough individual.
• Wrestling background is evident in core strength.
• Strong hands help maintain base block.
• Looks to work hands into position after losing battle early.
• Swings hips into position to seal the block.
• Fluid footwork for short-pull game.
• Finishes blocks with good intensity.
• Technique to trap and pancake leaning nose.
• Hands in punch were tighter and more accurate at Senior Bowl.
• Helps with cleanup when teammates' protection gets leaky.
• Capable in recovery mode.

Weaknesses

• Very short arms for his size, allowing defenders to get shots into his frame.
• Longer defenders separate and discard him.
• Will give some early ground against strong bull rush.
• Occasional drift against twisting fronts.
• Susceptible against push-pull specialists.
• Snap-to-step lateral quickness is average.
• Doesn't generate noticeable push as a drive blocker at point of attack.
• Gets a little grabby through contact on the move.

Sources Tell Us
"He was the best offensive lineman on the team when they won the Joe Moore Award (best offensive line in college football) and that line had everybody drafted, which speaks volumes for his ability." -- Southwest area scout for AFC team

Creed Humphrey was drafted with pick 63 of round 2 in the 2021 draft class. He scored a 10 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1 out of 496 OC from 1987 to 2021. https://t.co/6Lf4JeRywo #RAS #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/i7KMgOBKLA

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) May 1, 2021

The moment Creed Humphrey became a Chief �� @creed_humphrey pic.twitter.com/Et1FSKOBvV

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) May 1, 2021

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

"a few". Mahomes is having to play short stop all game with how bad it's gotten.

It's been worse than usual the last couple playoff games. The majority of Creed's snaps in his 3 years as a starter here in KC have not been this way.

I don't think you necessarily avoid extending him just because of that.

[Kman34]

Anytime Patrick has to take his eyes off the defense to field a grounder isn’t good.. Maybe we win in regulation if that snap was better..

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

Dude is a literal ALL PRO, pretty sure a few bad snaps doesn't change that... wtf are we even talking about here?

I think the bad snaps change that. Those things are dangerous and disruptive.

[RealSNR]

Were the bad snaps a problem during the regular season? Last year in the playoffs? If they were, were they as bad as the AFCC and the SB this year?

If they weren't noticeable enough to complain about before the last two games, I think you trust him to get that fixed back to the way they used to be and just call this one a fluke.

Also, how great is it that I have to specify which Super Bowl I'm talking about? God I love my life.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

"a few". Mahomes is having to play short stop all game with how bad it's gotten.

Mahomes biggest flaw might be that he's so good that we can downplay basically any issue on offense cause he can overcome them 99.999% of the time

[Cheater5]

Which is the better option, or easier course of action;

1) Find another Center in free agency or the draft who can deliver the ball perfectly from the shotgun to Mahomes’ chest right between his numbers, but is average at best, but likely a mediocre blocker on either runs or passing.

OR

2) Have the best blocking Center we’ve had in 20 years that combines the best of Casey Weigman with Tim Grunhard into one dude, but needs to work on his shotgun snaps for the reigning Super Bowl Champion Chiefs?

If you’re conflicted, go watch — really watch — Creed in both run and pass blocking from any game in the playoffs. He neutralizes pass rushers and removes people from the TV screen on runs. If he gets his hands on you, you’re done son.

[Hark Clunt]

i don't think creed's going anywhere. also, aren't super bowl balls usually slicker? i've heard players complain about them in the past. that may have been part of the problem.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

wtf just happened? Are people actually lobbying to get rid of Creed? He's probably the best Center in football not named Kelce, and he's 24 yrs old on a rookie contract.

You can't make this shit up.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Dude has been a top 5 center all 3 years he's been in the league and we want to let him go because he had some low snaps this year?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Cheater5

Which is the better option, or easier course of action;

1) Find another Center in free agency or the draft who can deliver the ball perfectly from the shotgun to Mahomes’ chest right between his numbers, but is average at best, but likely a mediocre blocker on either runs or passing.

OR

2) Have the best blocking Center we’ve had in 20 years that combines the best of Casey Weigman with Tim Grunhard into one dude, but needs to work on his shotgun snaps for the reigning Super Bowl Champion Chiefs?

If you’re conflicted, go watch — really watch — Creed in both run and pass blocking from any game in the playoffs. He neutralizes pass rushers and removes people from the TV screen on runs. If he gets his hands on you, you’re done son.

He's right you know ^

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Dude has been a top 5 center all 3 years he's been in the league and we want to let him go because he had some low snaps this year?

Yeah, let’s don’t be stupid. There has to be a reason for the bad snaps. They’ll find it and correct.

But, forcing Mahomes to take his eyes off the defense to just field a snap is a very bad thing and needs to be corrected by week 1 next year.

He’s been playing at the highest level in college and the pros. If it was a big or inert issue, we’d know by know.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Yeah, let’s don’t be stupid. There has to be a reason for the bad snaps. They’ll find it and correct.

But, forcing Mahomes to take his eyes off the defense to just field a snap is a very bad thing and needs to be corrected by week 1 next year.

He’s been playing at the highest level in college and the pros. If it was a big or inert issue, we’d know by know.

It's definitely a concern, but it seems more correctable than being a bad blocker.

Feels like people are making mountains out of molehills over this one.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

It's definitely a concern, but it seems more correctable than being a bad blocker.

Feels like people are making mountains out of molehills over this one.

Absolutely.

You can’t create or develop what Creed is as a blocker and pass protector. You can fix his snaps.

Creed is an incredible player. He’ll fix it. I don’t think Mahomes will let it remain an issue.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Cheater5

Which is the better option, or easier course of action;

1) Find another Center in free agency or the draft who can deliver the ball perfectly from the shotgun to Mahomes’ chest right between his numbers, but is average at best, but likely a mediocre blocker on either runs or passing.

OR

2) Have the best blocking Center we’ve had in 20 years that combines the best of Casey Weigman with Tim Grunhard into one dude, but needs to work on his shotgun snaps for the reigning Super Bowl Champion Chiefs?

If you’re conflicted, go watch — really watch — Creed in both run and pass blocking from any game in the playoffs. He neutralizes pass rushers and removes people from the TV screen on runs. If he gets his hands on you, you’re done son.

#1 and it's not even close. Because one will be ASTRONOMICALLY cheaper.

Again. An elite center for an Andy Reid offense is like paying for a Ferrari and not driving it. We don't do the tush push. We don't do QB sneaks. We run from shotgun alllloooot (so actually a centers ability to be a good snapper is even more important there), we are always Top 5-Top 10 in pass percentage, we aren't a power running team.

We don't even WANT to EVER pay for an elite center. Planning to walk on Creed will make our decisions to pay Jones, Sneed, Bolton, Tranquil, Reid etc much easier. If you need to walk from Creed in order to sign one of those, you do it and you fist pump while you are doing it.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Dude has been a top 5 center all 3 years he's been in the league and we want to let him go because he had some low snaps this year?

Regardless of the snaps, you let him go because there is simply no reason the Chiefs and their system should ever want to pay the market price of a top center. If we draft a center and they become a top center, sure that is ideal, but we sure as **** shouldn't ever pay for it.