Football Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes - Page 47

Wallcrawler · 10:50 AM

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

duncan_idaho · 11-28-2022, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

He was definitely impressive when we played the Jags. I know he was struggling a lot at the beginning of the season, but I never saw those games, so I can't really comment.

I think he's figuring his shit out now. Just took him a bit with a real coaching staff. I'm shocked he's making it work with ****ing Christian Kirk and Zay Jones.

Is he still going to be otherworldly amazing? Probably not. But he might have a nice little Derek Carr-type career. Maybe even with more winning, though that remains to be seen.

I think he’s poised to take a big jump next year if they get him a legit #1 next year. Quentin Johnston of TCU?

**dirk digler** · 01-05-2023, 04:03 PM

Saw this on r/nfl and thought it was interesting. Ravens got a problem on their hands.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment..._thinks_lamar/

Quote:

[Mueller & Sando] "He (Harbaugh) clearly thinks Lamar should be back. He's trying to stay out of it and take the high road." Sando: "Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun wrote in a Mailbag column that ""it's no secret between the coaches and top members of the front office that Jackson is a slacker."

Source: The Athletic Football Show - The Football GM with Randy Mueller and Mike Sando.

tredadda · 01-05-2023, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Saw this on r/nfl and thought it was interesting. Ravens got a problem on their hands.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment..._thinks_lamar/

It appears that they do if that is accurate. More interested in the off-season to see if they let him walk or pay him a massive contract.

Molitoth · 01-05-2023, 04:47 PM

To even think this topic was once something people believed in...

Now it's been replaced with Joe Burrow.

**Buehler445** · 01-05-2023, 04:49 PM

Slacker?

WOOF.

Soooo, if that's true that's a pretty damning statement. I also would be surprised. It seems like he's worked on his game a fair bit. I'd be surprised if he's a bum. If he is a bum, it makes what he's accomplished even more impressive.

Sassy Squatch · 01-05-2023, 04:54 PM

Just fwiw, most Ravens fans think the Mike Preston sourced stuff is absolute bullshit. The other stuff is probably accurate though

**RealSNR** · 01-05-2023, 06:23 PM

Slacker?

Not quite as funny as Kyler Murray video game jokes. I'll probably stick with my RB jokes when it comes to Lamar Jackson.

cmh6476 · 01-21-2024, 11:12 PM

Biggest game between the two yet

FloridaMan88 · 01-21-2024, 11:49 PM

Lamar’s only win vs Mahomes was because of a MEHHH fumble.

smithandrew051 · 01-21-2024, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Lamar’s only win vs Mahomes was because of a MEHHH fumble.

And the defense was beyond terrible for the first half of that season. It was Sutton bad (or worse) until we moved Jones back inside and signed Ingram. Then we played a bunch of bad QBs and it looked better.

KC_Connection · 01-21-2024, 11:56 PM

Force him to throw the ball on late downs from the pocket and I'll take my chances. Has never not been the case.

Bump · 01-21-2024, 11:56 PM

I never thought Lamar wasn't a good football player, he is. But he still can't touch the two time and soon to be 3 time.

Chiefshrink · 01-21-2024, 11:59 PM

Lamar is NOT an NFL QB. He is a running back who plays the QB position with a slightly better arm than Tebow who is highly athletic with excellent juking speed who still can't read a defense.

Chiefspants · 01-22-2024, 12:00 AM

I once made a post after our Super Bowl victory in 2020 calling my shot that Lamar would be Patrick's career rival.

I got dunked on for it and am too embarrassed to dig it out now.

smithandrew051 · 01-22-2024, 12:02 AM

Running QBs tend to look great until they play good defenses with all time great QBs.

History is on our side, even though the Ravens have had the better season.

01-16-2020, 09:14 AM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $3672912	Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop. Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell. There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points. Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest. Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays. When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind. The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true. Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special. Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead. The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back. Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring. Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game. Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances. Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived. Last edited by Wallcrawler; 01-16-2020 at 10:50 AM..
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