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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:11 AM   #691
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:13 AM   #692
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Kelce was the top rated run blocker in the NFL while having nearly 900 receiving yards as the #2TE for 1/3 of the year.

With the improvements to the OL, adding a legit threat at WR, the maturation of the rest of the guys on O and a healthy Charles...all that is going to force teams to open up the middle of the field.

That's gonna equate to Kelce and Thomas having lots of opportunities for chunk yards.
What I'd like KnoMo to go watch is Kelces preseason catch where he breaks away from Cincinnatis defense. Scheffler could never do that.


Now, Kelce is going to have a big year man. This offense has a shot to be pretty good (not Denver good obviously).
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:26 AM   #693
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Nothing without Vons pass rush. If Kelce is Sheffler, Harris turd Jr. is a bum.
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:29 AM   #694
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A lot of corners aren't good without a pass rush. It all goes hand in hand man.
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:55 AM   #697
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Let's try to give credit where it's due.

Harris is the best nickel corner in the NFL and is a top 10 corner overall.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:13 PM   #698
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Kelce has a shot to be really good. But to call him Scheffler is pure Denver homer.
I wasn't calling him Tony, just jabbing at ya...

Who really knows how good he can be, and he didn't have a lot of help last year. If they can get some focus to the WRs, that will help Kelce.

It will be interesting to see how things shake out this year.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:38 PM   #699
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Kelce had over 200 more receiving yards in his first season than Scheffler did in any one of his eight year career.

TOTALLY SAME GUY.
Kelce is nice, no doubt. To be fair re: his stats last year though: he was a TE on a team that has zero wr td completions. I'd like to know how many times kelce and scheffler were targeted in the seasons being compared before drawing conclusions...
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:48 PM   #700
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Kelce is nice, no doubt. To be fair re: his stats last year though: he was a TE on a team that has zero wr td completions. I'd like to know how many times kelce and scheffler were targeted in the seasons being compared before drawing conclusions...
In 2006, Tony's rookie year, he was targeted 37 times with 18 rec for 286 yds and 4 TDs.
In 2007, Tony was targeted 65 times with 49 rec for 549 yds and 4 TDs.

2006 was the Jake Plummer to Jay Cutler midyear transition. Javon Walker and Rod Smith had over 200 targets and and 130 or so receptions. Brandon Marshall was also a rookie with 37 targets in 2006, so Sheffler tied for 3rd most targets, essentially 4th most targeted option.

In 2014, Kelce was the 2nd most targeted with the most receptions for KC. And, that was his 2nd year in the league right, doesn't look like he did anything his rookie year, dunno if he was hurt or not.
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Alex is pretty good at throwing to TEs; from 2009-2011, Vernon Davis racked up 2963 yards and 30 TDs (including playoffs). No doubt Kelce will have a pretty good year.
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Alex is pretty good at throwing to TEs; from 2009-2011, Vernon Davis racked up 2963 yards and 30 TDs (including playoffs). No doubt Kelce will have a pretty good year.
You've got that right! Now that we have a legit deep threat, things are bound to loosen up underneath. If Alice throws the long ball 3-4 a game and proves he can actually make some of them teams will be forced to stop stacking the box. I'm expecting the run game to be huge again too.

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I wasn't calling him Tony, just jabbing at ya...

Who really knows how good he can be, and he didn't have a lot of help last year. If they can get some focus to the WRs, that will help Kelce.

It will be interesting to see how things shake out this year.
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In 2014, Kelce was the 2nd most targeted with the most receptions for KC. And, that was his 2nd year in the league right, doesn't look like he did anything his rookie year, dunno if he was hurt or not.
He missed all of his rookie year...so essentially last season was his first to actually play.
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