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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 01-31-2021, 09:17 AM   #6961
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Your 3 and 7 year old have earned income?
****. Forgot about that rule.
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Old 01-31-2021, 09:18 AM   #6962
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I could be wrong, but I THINK that's true of 529s broadly, so dig into Kansas's program as well. If so, you'll almost certainly be better off taking advantage of the state tax savings.
I’ll look but I don’t think so. Because Kansas.
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Old 01-31-2021, 09:19 AM   #6963
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When my dad passed away 4 years ago I inherited a portion of an IRA he had. I'm pretty sure it was in his trust. Maybe you could go a similar route. I owe no tax unless I take money out of it which I'm supposed to take a certain amount out every year and it's taxed. People here know a lot more than I do but it's something you could look into.
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Old 01-31-2021, 09:33 AM   #6964
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Can't you just get it into an ETF to start compounding until you decide. Then you can roll it into a Roth or a 529 when they start working
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Old 01-31-2021, 10:30 AM   #6965
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Can't you just get it into an ETF to start compounding until you decide. Then you can roll it into a Roth or a 529 when they start working
That's probably what I'll do. If I roll it into a Roth, I'll have to pay attention to the tax for the varmints for the year.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:10 PM   #6966
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Fidelity has a kids ROTH IRA that doesn't have to have earned income. I started one for all four of my kids last month. They're putting their birthday, Christmas $, etc into it.

Fidelity specifically states you don't have to have earned income as long as it makes a sense. Now the kids are coming up with $20 here and there wanting to invest it in their accounts and watch it grow.

The ROTH IRA has to be transferred to them on on their 18th bd.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:34 PM   #6967
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We started a 529 plan for our kids in 200 and 2002. They’ve gained about 50% on the steady inputs over 18 years. They’re in college now and paying all the costs from that account sure feels good.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:49 PM   #6968
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Old 01-31-2021, 04:54 PM   #6969
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Fidelity has a kids ROTH IRA that doesn't have to have earned income. I started one for all four of my kids last month. They're putting their birthday, Christmas $, etc into it.

Fidelity specifically states you don't have to have earned income as long as it makes a sense. Now the kids are coming up with $20 here and there wanting to invest it in their accounts and watch it grow.

The ROTH IRA has to be transferred to them on on their 18th bd.
Link?

I found this https://www.fidelity.com/retirement-ira/roth-ira-kids

But the child still has to have earned income.
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Old 01-31-2021, 06:19 PM   #6970
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This why I hire my kid to be my financial advisor so I can then invest their income into a Roth IRA that they advised me about. Win/win
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:27 PM   #6971
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I found this https://www.fidelity.com/retirement-ira/roth-ira-kids

But the child still has to have earned income.
I knew I was treading lightly. That's true but the way I understood it was they don't have to file taxes so just keep records of the income they made.

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I knew I was treading lightly. That's true but the way I understood it was they don't have to file taxes so just keep records of the income they made.

Win-win for all.

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Correct that a dependent minor doesn't have to file taxes unless they earn more than 12.4k.

For those interested, allowance does not count as earned income. Earned income is defined by the IRS as money earned from a W-2 job, or from self-employment like babysitting.
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Old 02-01-2021, 09:24 AM   #6974
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Old 02-01-2021, 09:38 AM   #6975
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Hasn’t even tested 100 day MA yet.
I don't see it as a technical trading fail as much as too much fluff in the market.
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