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Old 01-16-2020, 09:14 AM  
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Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes
This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.
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Old 11-03-2022, 04:11 PM   #676
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That's why I always chuckle a little when fans exclaim that Sean Payton would be their franchises savior. Saints legit destroyed their long term prospects for short term success and the team choked over and over and over again when it mattered despite being the superior team on most occasions.

Seriously. 5 playoff wins in the entire decade after Super Bowl XLIV. Despite having a legit franchise QB for almost the entire span and a relatively stacked roster.
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Old 11-03-2022, 04:18 PM   #677
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That's why I always chuckle a little when fans exclaim that Sean Payton would be their franchises savior. Saints legit destroyed their long term prospects for short term success and the team choked over and over and over again when it mattered despite being the superior team on most occasions.

Seriously. 5 playoff wins in the entire decade after Super Bowl XLIV. Despite having a legit franchise QB for almost the entire span and a relatively stacked roster.
He's heralded for his playcalling prowess and offensive creativity, not his roster management.

You could also argue that Drew Brees was nothing before Sean Payton. Because he was.
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Old 11-03-2022, 04:24 PM   #678
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He's heralded for his playcalling prowess and offensive creativity, not his roster management.

You could also argue that Drew Brees was nothing before Sean Payton. Because he was.
That's neat. He still woefully underachieved as a coach with that stacked roster and franchise QB and only found success when his DC was running a confirmed bounty program to take out opposing QBs.
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Old 11-03-2022, 04:28 PM   #679
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He's heralded for his playcalling prowess and offensive creativity, not his roster management.

You could also argue that Drew Brees was nothing before Sean Payton. Because he was.
'nothing' is strong - he made a pro bowl in SD if I recall.

And I think his efficiency numbers in those last couple years, while still in his early and mid 20s, were really good.

Where Payton turned shit up to 11 was volume.

Brees went from being LDT's caddy under Marty to being the whole damn show under Payton.

I'm not sure Payton made Brees much better than simple experience would have. But I'm fairly confident that Marty's offense held him back.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:04 PM   #680
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You might be right because Andrews is about the only target LJ can hit consistently. Looks like it is up to Lamar's legs AGAIN!
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Likely looked really good last week. And Doubs is healthy I think.

Saints ain’t running away with anything with their QB.

Ravens have a stupid easy schedule. They’re likely fine.

I mean, **** them. For sure. But they’re likely fine.
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That's pretty terrible when you're supposed to be an elite QB in the NFL and you can't out-duel Trevor Lawrence. And how shitty is the BAL secondary that they allowed Trevor to throw for 321 yards and 3 TDs no INTS?
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I guess I'm one of the few who think Lawrence is a realkh good QB on a rebuilding team.
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I guess I'm one of the few who think Lawrence is a realkh good QB on a rebuilding team.
He was definitely impressive when we played the Jags. I know he was struggling a lot at the beginning of the season, but I never saw those games, so I can't really comment.

I think he's figuring his shit out now. Just took him a bit with a real coaching staff. I'm shocked he's making it work with ****ing Christian Kirk and Zay Jones.

Is he still going to be otherworldly amazing? Probably not. But he might have a nice little Derek Carr-type career. Maybe even with more winning, though that remains to be seen.
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