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[penguinz]

2022 getting and staying fit thread!

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Strength training is 10x+ more important than cardio to live a full and healthy life.

I'm trying to live longer ans just be healthy. Women live much longer than men. Have less muscle tone, less muscle and are smaller. The smaller you are the better off you are generally. Sure avoiding muscle atrophy is important but most body building stuff is not exactly good for you. Ideally you would do both but I don't think there is any doctor ever that would tell you if you had to pick one to pick strength training instead of cardio.

Back when I was into body building I couldn't run for shit. My heart was still unhealthy. I got just as tired from running a block as I did after not lifting for 8 years. It gave me no aerobic benefit and did not help my triglyceride levels. Cardio and simply replacing my red meat intake with fish did. Ive only been doing cardio for 6 months and have only went from 188 lbs to 183 lbs and it is like night and day for my health. I felt sluggish alot when the focus was just strength training and that was when I was a younger man. I feel the absolute best I have ever felt in my entire life. Someday Id like to do both but for now focusing on the heart and blood levels.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Had a powerlifting meet so a weeks rest after and then went on vacation.

Good question... 4lbs or so is most likely dehydration. 4 days of eating about half of maintenance calories per day, for some reason I don't have an appetite when traveling.

There might be a possibility a change in supplements (a removal of one) has resulted in some of the loss as well.

Abs are sort of popping though so I guess there is one benefit.

Next month and a half is going to be brutal. Need to get back to where I was plus maybe 10lbs more.

Nothing more fun than eating a lot of food when you aren't hungry.

Ha, you were popping anadrols leading up to the meet and the water came off, didn't it?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by loochy

Ha, you were popping anadrols leading up to the meet and the water came off, didn't it?

Only thing I was possibly running that I might not be now is 60mg daily tbol.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm trying to live longer ans just be healthy. Women live much longer than men. Have less muscle tone, less muscle and are smaller. The smaller you are the better off you are generally. Sure avoiding muscle atrophy is important but most body building stuff is not exactly good for you. Ideally you would do both but I don't think there is any doctor ever that would tell you if you had to pick one to pick strength training instead of cardio.

Back when I was into body building I couldn't run for shit. My heart was still unhealthy. I got just as tired from running a block as I did after not lifting for 8 years. It gave me no aerobic benefit and did not help my triglyceride levels. Cardio and simply replacing my red meat intake with fish did. Ive only been doing cardio for 6 months and have only went from 188 lbs to 183 lbs and it is like night and day for my health. I felt sluggish alot when the focus was just strength training and that was when I was a younger man. I feel the absolute best I have ever felt in my entire life. Someday Id like to do both but for now focusing on the heart and blood levels.

You were not lifting correctly then. Lifting can do everything that running can when done correctly.

Say you get down to the weight you think is what you need to be to live how you want to live... What are you going to do if your wife were to fall down and is unable to get up and you are too weak to help her as well?

[Bearcat]

BWillie did his BWilliest with that one... no point in even starting to dissect all the idiocy when someone puts so much effort in being the reeruned-est version of themselves.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Had a powerlifting meet so a weeks rest after and then went on vacation.

Good question... 4lbs or so is most likely dehydration. 4 days of eating about half of maintenance calories per day, for some reason I don't have an appetite when traveling.

There might be a possibility a change in supplements (a removal of one) has resulted in some of the loss as well.

Abs are sort of popping though so I guess there is one benefit.

Next month and a half is going to be brutal. Need to get back to where I was plus maybe 10lbs more.

Nothing more fun than eating a lot of food when you aren't hungry.

forgot t ask, how'd the powerlifting meet go anyway?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by penguinz

You were not lifting correctly then. Lifting can do everything that running can when done correctly.

Say you get down to the weight you think is what you need to be to live how you want to live... What are you going to do if your wife were to fall down and is unable to get up and you are too weak to help her as well?

I'm not trying to lose weight as any goal. When I was into bodybuilding the only way I could gain weight is to not eat clean. Drink tons of whey protein. Doesn't really make you feel great.

If I end up losing like 15 to 20 lbs by running it will suck cuz then Ill have to lift again and eat more unhealthy.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm just messing around. Now that I am old I wish to live longer. When I was younger I used to lift for vanity. Now I just do cardio. Never thought Id see the day.

It's good to balance out the cardio with balance exercises and a couple of days per week of strength training. That helps keep you injury free during your cardio sessions, slow down the loss of muscle mass associated with aging, and lower your fall risk.

It's good to aim for a variety. I do a lot of running every week, but I also try to do two or three sessions of yoga, as those help me with balance, mobility, and strength, and counteract some of the distorting effects of long-distance running, especially the tight hip and leg muscles that come with long-distance running.

https://health.gov/myhealthfinder/he...der-quick-tips

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

BWillie did his BWilliest with that one... no point in even starting to dissect all the idiocy when someone puts so much effort in being the reeruned-est version of themselves.

Is your contention that cardio is unhealthy?
Is your contention that weighing more is generally more healthy than weighing less?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DanT

It's good to balance out the cardio with balance exercises and a couple of days per week of strength training. That helps keep you injury free during your cardio sessions, slow down the loss of muscle mass associated with aging, and lower your fall risk.

It's good to aim for a variety. I do a lot of running every week, but I also try to do two or three sessions of yoga, as those help me with balance, mobility, and strength, and counteract some of the distorting effects of long-distance running, especially the tight hip and leg muscles that comes with long-distance running.

https://health.gov/myhealthfinder/he...der-quick-tips

What kind/program for yoga? I tried the P90x variety years ago and it was soooooo slow and repetitive.... I could definitely use something on off days for flexibility/stretching and balance.

I currently try to remember stretching whatever I worked out on the same day, but often forget... and then will sometimes stretch between sets or if I have a long Teams meeting that I can stand for.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Only thing I was possibly running that I might not be now is 60mg daily tbol.

Hmm, I thought tbol was dry. I'm surprised you'd dump that much water. I know it's not muscle because you'd have to just not eat anything at all for that to happen

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

What kind/program for yoga? I tried the P90x variety years ago and it was soooooo slow and repetitive.... I could definitely use something on off days for flexibility/stretching and balance.

I currently try to remember stretching whatever I worked out on the same day, but often forget... and then will sometimes stretch between sets or if I have a long Teams meeting that I can stand for.

I do Vinyasa. I started going last year, due to some very tight hip and leg muscles and the fact that I could barely touch my knees, let alone get close to my ankles.

My intention was to improve my mobility, but I learned through doing it that my balance also needed a lot of work and that the postures also help with muscle strength.

I'm not very skilled at it, but I enjoy the challenge of doing it and I can see that it has helped me. I've been sticking with the "beginner-friendly" classes for now, but my studio wants more of us to trickle into the more advanced classes and I might start going to those occasionally, too.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hmm, I thought tbol was dry. I'm surprised you'd dump that much water. I know it's not muscle because you'd have to just not eat anything at all for that to happen

Tbol is dry. Its mostly muscle. I struggle with appetite when traveling. Especially long car rides.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

What kind/program for yoga? I tried the P90x variety years ago and it was soooooo slow and repetitive.... I could definitely use something on off days for flexibility/stretching and balance.

I currently try to remember stretching whatever I worked out on the same day, but often forget... and then will sometimes stretch between sets or if I have a long Teams meeting that I can stand for.

P90X Yoga was terri-shit, however their "Stretch X" video was the bee's knees.

Wish i still had my copy.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DanT

I do Vinyasa. I started going last year, due to some very tight hip and leg muscles and the fact that I could barely touch my knees, let alone get close to my ankles.

My intention was to improve my mobility, but I learned through doing it that my balance also needed a lot of work and that the postures also help with muscle strength.

I'm not very skilled at it, but I enjoy the challenge of doing it and I can see that it has helped me. I've been sticking with the "beginner-friendly" classes for now, but my studio wants more of us to trickle into the more advanced classes and I might start going to those occasionally, too.

Thanks, will check it out. I noticed that, too, years ago... my balance improved quite a bit with the yoga routine.