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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:04 PM   #6856
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Getting WV is pretty exciting. That would be a big improvement to the conference.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:05 PM   #6857
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It's a lot different, in that Texas and Oklahoma is always on Missouri's schedule.

The point is that the Big East, in addition to not having as many teams or a conference championship game, is a much, much easier league than the Big 12.

There's been no one in that league during West Virginia's run that can compare to Texas or Oklahoma. Since Miami and Va. Tech bailed, the Big East has been basically the Big 12 North division.

Awesome, so we'll have a team that can routinely win the Big 12 North.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:08 PM   #6858
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Mizzou played in the Big XII North + 3 rotating south games. Is it that much different than the Big East?
Seriously? This is a pretty dumb statement coming from you.

Who in the Big East matched UT or OU? Who in the Big East matched Tech, A&M, and/or OSU at various points over the last few years?

Hell, Nebraska was down by their standards and would have bentover the Big East conference with Bill f'n Callahan.

You're trying way too hard.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:10 PM   #6859
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You're absolutely correct.

Congratulations on your upgrade, I'm sure you'll all be very very happy together.

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Old 10-25-2011, 01:10 PM   #6860
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West Virginia sucks, and that's why every good conference turned them down.

So in that regard, they should fit in perfectly with the Big 12-2-2/Big Leftover/Losers and Leftovers/Middle 12.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:12 PM   #6861
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So in that regard, they should fit in perfectly with the Big 12-2-2/Big Leftover/Losers and Leftovers/Middle 12.

Butthurt.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:12 PM   #6862
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West Virginia sucks, and that's why every good conference turned them down.

So in that regard, they should fit in perfectly with the Big 12-2-2/Big Leftover/Losers and Leftovers/Middle 12.
Yep. I'm pretty happy with the replacement (minus the whole distance thing).
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:13 PM   #6863
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I'm glad this thread made it back to butthurt.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:13 PM   #6864
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Yep. I'm pretty happy with the replacement (minus the whole distance thing).
butthurt.

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Old 10-25-2011, 01:13 PM   #6865
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Butthurt.
Not as much as DJ, but, yeah, it's palpable.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:14 PM   #6866
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West Virginia sucks, and that's why every good conference turned them down.

So in that regard, they should fit in perfectly with the Big 12-2-2/Big Leftover/Losers and Leftovers/Middle 12.
Leftovers and Losers? Is that the Big IIX's version of Legends and Leaders?
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:14 PM   #6867
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Why in the hell would the Big 12 allow Notre Dame to join minus the sport that counts?
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:14 PM   #6868
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Getting WV is pretty exciting. That would be a big improvement to the conference.
Life just got a lot tougher for KU in football with the additions of TCU and perhaps WVU.

Not looking forward to it...
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:15 PM   #6869
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Life just got a lot tougher for KU in football with the additions of TCU and perhaps WVU.

Not looking forward to it...
It's not like KU is going to beat aTm or MIZZOU this year.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:17 PM   #6870
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Why in the hell would the Big 12 allow Notre Dame to join minus the sport that counts?

I asked the same question earlier today - someone responded with the answer that when ND is forced into a conference, the one that has their other sports will have a leg up on everyone else.
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