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Old 10-05-2023, 03:07 PM   #68206
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Brandon Thorn graded the pressure quality of every player ranked in the top 10 in pressures.

https://trenchwarfare.substack.com/p...-short-grading

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Dammit Karl!
So Furious George is ranked in the Top 10 in pressures and a Bronco is nary to be seen . . . . . .

That's what I'm taking from your post.

So, Congrats, I guess . . . . . .
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Old 10-05-2023, 03:21 PM   #68207
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Nick Bosa-league leading 90 pressures in 2022
George Karlaftis-on pace for 85 pressures this season

Knowmo, is this good?
I guess it depends on what the pressure looks like. Thorn is saying that 15 of Karl’s 17 pressures were like the one shown in the second video.

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Old 10-05-2023, 03:22 PM   #68208
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I think the Broncos are in the worst position in the entire league..

All of the other teams that suck have something, whether it is a huge amount of cap space, stockpile of picks, good young talent...up and coming coaching staff..

Denver has nothing, no money, no stockpile of picks, a wasteland of young talent and an old QB and HC that they traded picks for that make a buttload of money for their relative performance.
They have plenty of dead cap:

The move (cutting Gregory) will leave the team with $16.1 million in dead money this season and $6.3 million in dead money in 2024, according to Spotrac.com. The total hit of $22.4 million is the largest dead money cap hit for a defensive player in NFL history, according to Zach Segars of Let’s Talk Broncos.
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Old 10-05-2023, 03:22 PM   #68209
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I guess it depends on what the pressure looks like. Thorn is saying that 15 of Karl’s 17 pressures were like the one shown in the second video.

Which is absolutely horseshit because I've seen the guy get at least 5 legitimate pressures off the top of my head the last 2-3 weeks.

Also, I'm sure all "LQ" pressures are equal and they all look exactly like the worst one you could probably find.
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Old 10-05-2023, 03:24 PM   #68210
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Cool. Looks like you don't need a QB now.
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Old 10-05-2023, 03:25 PM   #68212
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I'm sure that every sack you're giving your edge rushers credit for when comparing them to Karlaftis are nothing like this.
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Which is absolutely horseshit because I've seen the guy get at least 5 legitimate pressures off the top of my head the last 2-3 weeks.

Also, I'm sure all "LQ" pressures are equal and they all look exactly like the worst one you could probably find.
Knowmo has been using PFF scores to disparage Karlaftis for over a year and now that PFF praises Karlaftis he turns somewhere else to try to disparage him
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Interesting. Does the HOF break sacks down by low and high quality sacks when judging whether a player gets inducted? If so then this is a relevant stat. If not then it is a pointless one that someone made up because of too much time on their hands.
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Knowmo has been using PFF scores to disparage Karlaftis for over a year and now that PFF praises Karlaftis he turns somewhere else to try to disparage him
Yup. Completely full of shit.

And there's nothing disparaging about saying that he's not quite in that group, but again, the fact that he's even in the conversation as a 22 year old just 4 games into year 2 speaks volumes.

KnowMo would be sucking Karlaftis's dick endlessly if he were a Bronco.
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Cool. Looks like you don't need a QB now.
Can you imagine if they had a chance to draft Williams or Maye and passed? That would just be the cherry on top.
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Another low quality sack example

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Another low quality sack example


What his PFF grade KnowMo?

Can we get an update?
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By this metric Bonitto's biggest play and sack was a low quality sack

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By this metric Bonitto's biggest play and sack was a low quality sack

Oof. Knew it.

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I'm sure that every sack you're giving your edge rushers credit for when comparing them to Karlaftis are nothing like this.
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