Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 45

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

Chieftain · 08-04-2023, 05:56 PM

It's just greed at this point. Cut bait with this mofo after the season and draft a stud DT.
I hate greedy players that think of themselves before the team. We have another Tyreek situation at hand.

emaw1979 · 08-04-2023, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

How does Jones have any leverage?

Yes lets sit out real games and miss game checks and cost myself like 10 million dollars all ensuring that even if I can get to FA next year I'll be 30 and there will be questions about my desire on top of my age.

I agree. The Chiefs have all the reasons to wait it out. They don't NEED him in the preseason, and he's not a threat to sit out into the season. He will lose BIG game checks the way that contract is structured. If he plays on the current contract, he would be the one taking the risk and hoping he won't take a dip in productivity or even suffer some injuries at 29 when he's very close to the end of his prime.

Even if he duplicates his very good season, his potential contract on the open market will be significantly less in guarantees, years, and APY than he could get now. That's IF he duplicates AND stays healthy.

The Chiefs have a glaring hole, but they know CJ will be there this year and can address it next off-season if he refuses to sign. They have almost all the leverage and the longer he continues to hold the more he will piss Andy off enough that he won't be here beyond this year.

Chieftain · 08-04-2023, 06:14 PM

Totally agree. Chiefs have the leverage here, not the other way around.
I have always been against the idea of extending players not named Mahomes and Kelce approaching 30. You pay a player for what you expect he will produce going forward. It's insanity to pay CJ $27+ million/season when he is entering the decline phase of his career.

**jjchieffan** · 08-04-2023, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

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https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...3#post17028573

Ah. So it is. I haven't followed this thread every day. I missed that.

**jjchieffan** · 08-04-2023, 07:08 PM

Well, since he won't get paid for weeks that he holds out, the Chiefs, I would think, would free up that salary cap space every week that he doesn't play, to the tune of over $1.1M per week, right? So, that seems to be even more leverage for the Chiefs as it goes on. There's no way that his holdout drags into the season. Maybe he's okay with losing over a million dollars for skipping training camp. But it adds up a lot faster when you're missing game checks over a million dollars each week.

Red Dawg · 08-04-2023, 08:02 PM

What advice is Jones getting? No team is giving him the Donald contract. He should sign what we offered and get his 2024 money and be happy.

Coochie liquor · 08-04-2023, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

What advice is Jones getting? No team is giving him the Donald contract. He should sign what we offered and get his 2024 money and be happy.

I understand his wanting that last big payday. But Mahomes IS this team. He left enough for CJ last time. CJ needs a little humble pie, and do to him as Patrick did to him. How many millions yuh need bruh??

Coogs · 08-04-2023, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Yes they’d have a new deal

But the cap number would be on the chiefs likely during free agency so they’d find it tough to spend

Unless some team goes after him early in the free agency period as well. That could happen. And if all 33.5 free up when he signs somewhere else, it is what it is. Compensation might not be all it could be due to the Chiefs looking to unload salary, but still might be better than nothing.

The best compensation we could probably hope for would be a trade now. Not an ideal situation getting this close to the season, but again, it is what it is. With the 20 million in cap savings this year, you could fill the void with someone like Suh for a year, and still have money to do other things.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-04-2023, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by emaw1979

I agree. The Chiefs have all the reasons to wait it out. They don't NEED him in the preseason, and he's not a threat to sit out into the season. He will lose BIG game checks the way that contract is structured. If he plays on the current contract, he would be the one taking the risk and hoping he won't take a dip in productivity or even suffer some injuries at 29 when he's very close to the end of his prime.

Even if he duplicates his very good season, his potential contract on the open market will be significantly less in guarantees, years, and APY than he could get now. That's IF he duplicates AND stays healthy.

The Chiefs have a glaring hole, but they know CJ will be there this year and can address it next off-season if he refuses to sign. They have almost all the leverage and the longer he continues to hold the more he will piss Andy off enough that he won't be here beyond this year.

This is what I have been saying, the Chiefs have way more leverage than others have been saying. Jones will sign next week and be in camp before the 1st preseason game

-King- · 08-04-2023, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain

It's just greed at this point. Cut bait with this mofo after the season and draft a stud DT.
I hate greedy players that think of themselves before the team. We have another Tyreek situation at hand.

O.city · 08-04-2023, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Unless some team goes after him early in the free agency period as well. That could happen. And if all 33.5 free up when he signs somewhere else, it is what it is. Compensation might not be all it could be due to the Chiefs looking to unload salary, but still might be better than nothing.

The best compensation we could probably hope for would be a trade now. Not an ideal situation getting this close to the season, but again, it is what it is. With the 20 million in cap savings this year, you could fill the void with someone like Suh for a year, and still have money to do other things.

There’s no one out there to sign at this point and we still do in fact want to win a sb.
It’s just not a smart thing to do now. Tag and trade after another big year

O.city · 08-04-2023, 09:25 PM

Jacob Hargrave is 30, not the caliber player jones is and just signed a 4 year 84 million dollar deal this off-season.

Chris comes in and has another good year, he’s getting 28-30 on the market.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-04-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Jacob Hargrave is 30, not the caliber player jones is and just signed a 4 year 84 million dollar deal this off-season.

Chris comes in and has another good year, he’s getting 28-30 on the market.

So why wouldn't he take $27 for 4 with $75 guaranteed? Takes the risk off the table... That's while he will sign next week.

O.city · 08-04-2023, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

So why wouldn't he take $27 for 4 with $75 guaranteed? Takes the risk off the table... That's while he will sign next week.

Because he has leverage and thinks he can get more than that.

**loochy** · 08-05-2023, 07:41 AM

So did we sign this piece of shit yet?

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08-04-2023, 05:56 PM	#661
Chieftain Fan since 1997 Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $-1739600	It's just greed at this point. Cut bait with this mofo after the season and draft a stud DT. I hate greedy players that think of themselves before the team. We have another Tyreek situation at hand. __________________ Chiefs Records
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08-04-2023, 06:14 PM	#663
Chieftain Fan since 1997 Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $-1739600	Totally agree. Chiefs have the leverage here, not the other way around. I have always been against the idea of extending players not named Mahomes and Kelce approaching 30. You pay a player for what you expect he will produce going forward. It's insanity to pay CJ $27+ million/season when he is entering the decline phase of his career. __________________ Chiefs Records
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08-04-2023, 09:25 PM	#672
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-515936	Jacob Hargrave is 30, not the caliber player jones is and just signed a 4 year 84 million dollar deal this off-season. Chris comes in and has another good year, he’s getting 28-30 on the market.
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08-05-2023, 07:41 AM	#675
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