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Old 03-01-2024, 08:18 AM  
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Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:01 AM   #661
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Yep, purely as prospects.

I ask because someone had posted this pic on Facebook with the caption that Caleb Williams would still go #1 overall if they were all entering the 2024 draft.

I don’t follow college ball but that didn’t sound right to me at all. It’s my understanding that Andrew Luck was basically the best prospect since Peyton Manning and then Elway before him.
Yea, that's horseshit. I can maybe see him going over Burrow, but Burrow was coming off a NC, and that probably gives him the edge when you're splitting hairs for me.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:01 AM   #662
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Why Burrow over Lawrence?

Based on what I hear, they both had pretty similar college careers but in reverse. Burrow started slow then ended with possibly the best college QB season ever, while Lawrence started off hot then fizzled out as he got closer to his draft year.
I just never liked Lawrence as a prospect.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:01 AM   #663
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Why Burrow over Lawrence?

Based on what I hear, they both had pretty similar college careers but in reverse. Burrow started slow then ended with possibly the best college QB season ever, while Lawrence started off hot then fizzled out as he got closer to his draft year.
I was never a huge believer in Lawrence. Felt like he was overrated and all the "generational prospect" talk was silly. Argued with many on here about it.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:13 AM   #664
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So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:18 AM   #665
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So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?
For me….probably at 3.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:26 AM   #666
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So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?
4th.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:42 AM   #667
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How I had them as prospects?

1. Luck
2. Burrow
3. Caleb
4. Lawrence
5. Murray
6. Young

Luck is in a class of his own as a prospect. Burrow and Caleb are very close for me. Lawrence and Murray I didn't love, but they were worthy of being #1 overall QBs. I preferred Stroud AND Richardson to Young.
Beat me to it. That's the exact order I had. Luck was generational and lived up to it. If his GM cared enough to actually get him a solid OLine he would have been a HOF QB.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:45 AM   #668
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So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?
I would put him at #3.
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Old 04-19-2024, 11:37 PM   #670
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So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?
#2. He literally carried that Auburn team and its dumb ass coach to a national title.

Didn't see that from the other QB's on that list, although Burrow was damn good.
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#2. He literally carried that Auburn team and its dumb ass coach to a national title.

Didn't see that from the other QB's on that list, although Burrow was damn good.
I was leaning this way as well. Cam was insane as a prospect and I think I definitely have a tendency to fall in love with measurables.
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When top QB prospects end up being complete busts, it’s usually because they go to a very bad situation. That won’t be the case with Williams and Chicago. They were really smart to trade the number one pick last year and build their team. And they’ve done a great job in free agency this year.

Assuming the draft the best available WR at 9 Williams will have top-tier receivers. i’ve always thought Swift was a very good RB. They have a pretty good OL, and a decent defense.

I think the division will be tough. Green Bay looks like they are going to be a top team with love. Detroit will probably face San Francisco again to get a chance to lose to us in the Super Bowl. Assuming Minnesota can get McCaffrey. They will also be a very good team. So it will be a real challenge if Williams can get Chicago into the playoffs and if he does, I think he will have to have a Stroud it type of year. I don’t think he’s going to be that exceptional, but with the cast around him, it’s highly unlikely he will be a bust.
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When top QB prospects end up being complete busts, it’s usually because they go to a very bad situation. That won’t be the case with Williams and Chicago.
I actually think it will.
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