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Old 09-18-2023, 02:46 PM   #66676
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You're stuck with Russ for a while.

I have no idea what the motivation was but Payton seemed like a name that the $$$$ guys wanted to buy, not really a savvy football move.
Barring a huge turnaround, I think Russ gets designated as a post-June 1st cut in this coming offseason.
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Old 09-18-2023, 03:00 PM   #66678
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It is sooo frustrating as a fan that they would hire Vance Joseph. Every time they show his simple face on the sideline it fills me with rage. And I’m a CU booster.

Payton had no choice but to roll with Wilson this year. But hiring a guy Denver fired for incompetence only a few year ago—that’s just idiocy and arrogance.
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Barring a huge turnaround, I think Russ gets designated as a post-June 1st cut in this coming offseason.
Payton will probably be your best QB scout.
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Barring a huge turnaround, I think Russ gets designated as a post-June 1st cut in this coming offseason.
$18.4 million of dead money is gonna hurt even with a rookie QB next year
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$18.4 million of dead money is gonna hurt even with a rookie QB next year
That's not great but that's manageable.

So if that's the case, Russ is a dead man walking.

No one is signing him to big contract again and Denver can move on after this year.
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That's not great but that's manageable.

So if that's the case, Russ is a dead man walking.

No one is signing him to big contract again and Denver can move on after this year.
I had this wrong. It's actually $35.4 million in dead money with no cap savings if they go that route.

So basically they're ****ed
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$18.4 million of dead money is gonna hurt even with a rookie QB next year
Spotrac has his Post 6/1 Release numbers at:

2024 Dead Cap - 35.4M
2025 Dead Cap - 49.6M

The 18.4M number is if anyone will trade with them to take on that grotesque contract.
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I had this wrong. It's actually $35.4 million in dead money with no cap savings if they go that route.

So basically they're ****ed
Barely beat me to it.
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Spotrac has his Post 6/1 Release numbers at:

2024 Dead Cap - 35.4M
2025 Dead Cap - 49.6M

The 18.4M number is if anyone will trade with them to take on that grotesque contract.
I'll be honest here; I NEVER thought someone would trade for Goff and his deal. But here we are and the Lions have certainly benefitted from the additional picks.
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The 18.4M number is if anyone will trade with them to take on that grotesque contract.
Jesus, PaysATon is such a disaster, yet Micro Penner seems to love him and think he’s doing a swell job!

That franchise is so ****ed, and I’m here for ALL OF IT!!!
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Apparently Russ' contract is fairly complicated, there are two separate future extension options which each lower his guaranteed salary but tack on extra years. This article explains a lot of it: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ontract%20year.

TLDR, they can release him next offseason for a large but manageable cap hit unless he balls out this year.
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Jesus, PaysATon is such a disaster, yet Micro Penner seems to love him and think he’s doing a swell job!

That franchise is so ****ed, and I’m here for ALL OF IT!!!
Me too. Could not happen to a more deserving fan base!
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