***Official Bushwood Country Club Lounge***

[smittysbar]

Okay, here is a place for the Golfers to talk about tournaments, clubs, swing help or thoughts.

Today is the Players Championship, which I think ought to be the 5th Major. Largest pot in the PGA. The daunting 17th, which seems to bring excitement every year. At least we will get to see Sergio blow up yet again.

I am ready to see some water balls!

[KC_Connection]

US Open set up is a joke this week. Way too easy for these guys.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

US Open set up is a joke this week. Way too easy for these guys.

Mike Jones ruined US Open setups and his replacement, Reg Jones, is just as bad.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Mike Jones ruined US Open setups and his replacement, Reg Jones, is just as bad.

Fowler has 10 birdies in 17 holes. Are they playing the Travelers?

[KC_Connection]

It looks like both Fowler and Schauffele are going to set the major championship record for low score today (62).

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

US Open set up is a joke this week. Way too easy for these guys.

I don't like the US Open generally - or the British. Basically any place where luck is amplified I think is dumb. One thing where luck is a huge factor is rough. You are at the mercy of if your lie is good or not. You can just continually get ****ed or lucky and get good lies. Same thing with wind.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It looks like both Fowler and Schauffele are going to set the major championship record for low score today (62).

Meh. While I think this is a lower tier course for a US Open all that matters for a good golf tournament is does the set up reward good shots? It can be a great competition if the course rewards good shots but people still go low and it can be a terrible competition for golf if all the guys are over par and it doesn't reward good shots as much and luck becomes a bigger factor.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't like the US Open generally - or the British. Basically any place where luck is amplified I think is dumb. One thing where luck is a huge factor is rough. You are at the mercy of if your lie is good or not. You can just continually get ****ed or lucky and get good lies. Same thing with wind.

Seems like there is a simple solution to that problem. Stay out of the rough and don't even risk getting unlucky.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Meh. While I think this is a lower tier course for a US Open all that matters for a good golf tournament is does the set up reward good shots? It can be a great competition if the course rewards good shots but people still go low and it can be a terrible competition for golf if all the guys are over par and it doesn't reward good shots as much and luck becomes a bigger factor.

You can have a setup that rewards good shots where par is a good score rather than birdie. That's generally what a US Open is supposed to be instead of same birdie fest seen on tour every single other week of the year.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Meh. While I think this is a lower tier course for a US Open all that matters for a good golf tournament is does the set up reward good shots? It can be a great competition if the course rewards good shots but people still go low and it can be a terrible competition for golf if all the guys are over par and it doesn't reward good shots as much and luck becomes a bigger factor.

There should be a difference between a good golf tournament and the national championship.

"Are you trying to embarrass the best players in the world?"

"No, we're trying to identify them."

Bad shots should be brutally punished in the US Open.

All of these setups with massive fairways are always turkey shoots. Same as that ****ing joke Erin Hills.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

All of these setups with massive fairways are always turkey shoots. Same as that ****ing joke Erin Hills.

That's the other problem. I'm not even sure how much the USGA could even do to fix this the rest of the week given how large the fairways are.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

One guy in the history of majors shot 62, and we are one par away from two guys doing it in the first half of day 1.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There should be a difference between a good golf tournament and the national championship.

"Are you trying to embarrass the best players in the world?"

"No, we're trying to identify them."

Bad shots should be brutally punished in the US Open.

All of these setups with massive fairways are always turkey shoots. Same as that ****ing joke Erin Hills.

Then instead of rough and dumb fairway bunkers, more hazards and ob. That is how you help eliminate luck.

For example, just yesterday me and my buddy hit our drives to the same spot. Within 4 yards from reach other. My lie was ball completely buried. His was perfect lie. I had to hack a Gap wedge out from 160 and barely got it 100 yards. He hit a easy 9i onto the green. Thick rough is lazy and stupid. Hazards and OB good because if you lose your drive or shot it effects all players exactly the same.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Graduated rough is what you're looking for, but over the course of one event, luck will not even put.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Graduated rough is what you're looking for, but over the course of one event, luck will not even put.

I would be a huge proponent for smaller fairways and much larger ring of secondary rough. Aesthetically that would probably piss some people off. Then taper off the thick rough the further you go away. In reality that is extremely difficult to do as it sometimes depends on the terrain in certain areas how the rough grows in.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

380 off the tee and people don't want them to roll back the ball.