****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'll be honest and I've said this before. You can't convince me the cap is an issue when we just added 40mil to Mahomes cap number the next 4 years for seemingly no reason other than to make sure he stays on the top paid QBs list.

If Veach wants a player bad enough, he'll make the cap work to get him.

You don't think Pat and his reps came to them about wanting that?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, sorry.

Most of your 2nd round picks are gonna end up alot more Mecole Hardman than whoever elite WR you expect them to be.

When they drafted Mecole:

DK Metcalf
Terry McLaurin
Diontae Johnson

were all available.

That's a bad miss.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Actually that is my view. I was told I was crazy and he sucks and won't get that.

But if you can give MVS 10, Mooney is worth every penny of anything within a few million of that.

He'll hit the open market, he'll get that.

I wouldn't pay him that, but someone will.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, sorry.

Most of your 2nd round picks are gonna end up alot more Mecole Hardman than whoever elite WR you expect them to be.

Sure. But Toney and Skyy combined aren't even Mecole Hardmans level.

I hate how you guys keep acting like I'm saying Veach should draft a guy in the 3rd round and he should be the next Justin Jefferson. It's not that. But they shouldn't be "unplayable" or getting 9 snaps a game. Is that a crazy thing to want?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

He'll hit the open market, he'll get that.

I wouldn't pay him that, but someone will.

So don't pay anyone but insist Mahomes pull guys no one else would start over the finish line.


Got it.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

When they drafted Mecole:

DK Metcalf
Terry McLaurin
Diontae Johnson

were all available.

That's a bad miss.

Compared to those 3, sure.

On average, Mecole brought good value for a 2nd round WR behind what he was behind.

Most picks aren't gonna work out.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Mooney is gonna cost 15 plus a year. I'd say that's probably pretty expensive for what kind of player he is.

Mooney falls pretty firmly under the "it's the high price of mediocrity that will kill ya" umbrella...

Then again, that's EXACTLY the argument one could've made against signing Justin Reid and it's hard to find anything to complain about there.

What's the WR middle-class looked like over the last few years? Jakobi Meyer's been a nice get at his price point, MVS has disappointed. I'm sure there are loads of other guys in there.

It doesn't feel like that's generally a value play, though. Typically you pay for your superstar and get something at/near value or you go cheap and hope you hit on some nice bounce-back seasons here or there.

I can't think of a lot of guys that have fallen into that middle ground of reasonable 2-3 year contracts that have been strong contributors.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

So don't pay anyone but insist Mahomes pull guys no one else would start over the finish line.


Got it.

Is that what I said?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Compared to those 3, sure.

On average, Mecole brought good value for a 2nd round WR behind what he was behind.

Most picks aren't gonna work out.

That's not how the draft works.

You pick based on the players available that season from college.

Saying Mecole would be fine in another draft with poor WRs is no consolation prize.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Is that what I said?

If all we need to do is for Mahomes to "play better" then why pay at all?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mooney falls pretty firmly under the "it's the high price of mediocrity that will kill ya" umbrella...

Then again, that's EXACTLY the argument one could've made against signing Justin Reid and it's hard to find anything to complain about there.

What's the WR middle-class looked like over the last few years? Jakobi Meyer's been a nice get at his price point, MVS has disappointed. I'm sure there are loads of other guys in there.

It doesn't feel like that's generally a value play, though. Typically you pay for your superstar and get something at/near value or you go cheap and hope you hit on some nice bounce-back seasons here or there.

I can't think of a lot of guys that have fallen into that middle ground of reasonable 2-3 year contracts that have been strong contributors.

JJSS in NE.

It's just not a market I'd wanna swim in anymore.

We've got the cheap young players. I'm gonna go give my first and next years 2nd to Dallas and pay Ceedee 30 million a year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

That's not how the draft works.

You pick based on the players available that season from college.

Saying Mecole would be fine in another draft with poor WRs is no consolation prize.

Did I say that?

[O.city]

In terms of a 2nd round WR draft pick, Mecole brought pretty solid value. Not 2nd contract value, but most guys won't.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

JJSS in NE.

It's just not a market I'd wanna swim in anymore.

We've got the cheap young players. I'm gonna go give my first and next years 2nd to Dallas and pay Ceedee 30 million a year.

So we couldn't afford to add 5 million at the deadline but we can pay another WR 30 million?!





I have no idea where you even coming from on this.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

If all we need to do is for Mahomes to "play better" then why pay at all?

Exactly what I said, go with that.