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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:55 AM   #6451
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Agreed that some states aren't easily defined as far as region goes.

Which states are Midwestern to you?
I tend to look at the Mississippi River as the more true dividing line on the east side and the continental divide on the west, up and until you get into true desert territory to the southwest. Probably more accurately described as the Midwestern Plains with a history dominated by the cattle trails.

I realize this leaves out a large portion of what is considered "Midwest", which I would call the "Upper Midwest", east of the Mississippi to the Great Lakes.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #6452
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Certainly eastern Colorado has more in common than the mountain region. Some states don't fit neatly into any one definition, but yes, when they were Big 8, I considered them midwest.
If someone doesn't like the Midwest label...call it tornado alley...which is typically defined as that area that stretches from Iowa through missouri,kansas,oklahoma and texas....no doubt MU is a part of that as witnessed by the tragedy at Joplin.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:42 PM   #6453
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:57 PM   #6454
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Rumor is MU is now lobbying for the SEC to take Iowa State so they can win a game.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:58 PM   #6455
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Rumor is MU is now lobbying for the SEC to take Iowa State so they can win a game.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:59 PM   #6456
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:02 PM   #6457
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:05 PM   #6458
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Bob Fescoe is the last moron that should be trying to clown Mizzou football...a frickin Pop Warner team could cover the spread against his school right about now.
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:09 PM   #6459
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Bob Fescoe is the last moron that should be trying to clown Mizzou football...a frickin Pop Warner team could cover the spread against his school right about now.
It's all he's got.


To state the obvious, however, Mizzou picked the wrong year to come up mediocre. Frankilin over Gabbert was a horrendous decision by Pinkel and company.
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:26 PM   #6460
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Looks like Colorado might be having a bit of cognitive dissonance... currently down to Oregon 45-2.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:44 PM   #6461
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someone should inform Bob that they didn't invent it.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:45 PM   #6462
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someone should inform Bob that they didn't invent it.
That MU invented homecoming is the first thing Fescoe has gotten right in ages.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:48 PM   #6463
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That MU invented homecoming is the first thing Fescoe has gotten right in ages.
MU did not. Illinois did, or at the very least was holding them before MU.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:56 PM   #6464
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Bwahahahaha!

Fescoe might be reeruned but this is pretty funny.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:58 PM   #6465
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MU did not. Illinois did, or at the very least was holding them before MU.
It is generally accepted that MU invented homecoming. Deal with it.
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