Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs

[RunKC]

A new weapon for Patrick Mahomes: Former Ravens and Cardinals WR Marquise “Hollywood” Brown is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs, per sources.

During is final season in Baltimore in 2021, Brown had 91 catches for 1,008 yards and six touchdowns. During… pic.twitter.com/oGD82iazKb

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 15, 2024

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by New World Order

He was 166 at the NFL Combine and has since added weight

So he isn't a 4.2 guy on the field if he has to lean out that much to run a record breaking 40.

[kccrow]

Jesus ****ing Christ these comments get absolutely stupid.

Worthy is 5'11-1/4" not 5'8" or 5'9" or whatever number someone wants to pull out of their ass today. It's like one google search away.

Worthy is absolutely a 4.2 player on the field. The guy ran a 4.21, he's not exactly flirting with the 4.2s. Everyone on the planet who knows football knew he'd run in the 4.2s. I feel like that shouldn't have to be pointed out.

He also separates really well and has crisp route breaks, so this nonsense about his routes is just that. Like all college receivers, including his less productive teammate, they have to get better with their route tree.

Quit pumping bullshit to build a narrative.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by New World Order

He's reportedly 180 lbs now.

180 @ 5'9 isn't small.

If he can just give us 800-900 yards this year our old offense will return. Kelce, Rice and Hollywood should be plenty.

Competent play at WR will return this offense to its former glory. Quality WR play is even better.

I’m convinced the way Mahomes would drop back and see no one open in the first half of the season that Skyy, Toney, and MVS were not in the correct position, not getting separation, and not on the same page as Mahomes when he would try to make his off-schedule magic happen.

It’s as much addition by subtraction of our starters from opening day 2023 as it is adding Brown (and anyone else’s) talent.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Jesus ****ing Christ these comments get absolutely stupid.

Worthy is 5'11-1/4" not 5'8" or 5'9" or whatever number someone wants to pull out of their ass today. It's like one google search away.

Worthy is absolutely a 4.2 player on the field. The guy ran a 4.21, he's not exactly flirting with the 4.2s. Everyone on the planet who knows football knew he'd run in the 4.2s. I feel like that shouldn't have to be pointed out.

He also separates really well and has crisp route breaks, so this nonsense about his routes is just that. Like all college receivers, including his less productive teammate, they have to get better with their route tree.

Quit pumping bullshit to build a narrative.

If he put on about 10-12 lbs of muscle and ran 4.30 I’d still take him lol.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

You ask Bills/Bengals/Ravens fans the one player they DONT want us to draft. Who do you think the most common answer would be? Bring back the legion of zoom with this elite defense.

This league and it's defensive coordinators will collectively piss down their legs if we can get Worthy...

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Jesus ****ing Christ these comments get absolutely stupid.

Worthy is 5'11-1/4" not 5'8" or 5'9" or whatever number someone wants to pull out of their ass today. It's like one google search away.

Worthy is absolutely a 4.2 player on the field. The guy ran a 4.21, he's not exactly flirting with the 4.2s. Everyone on the planet who knows football knew he'd run in the 4.2s. I feel like that shouldn't have to be pointed out.

He also separates really well and has crisp route breaks, so this nonsense about his routes is just that. Like all college receivers, including his less productive teammate, they have to get better with their route tree.

Quit pumping bullshit to build a narrative.

He’s incredibly fast but I think Hollywood will play his role primarily. I don’t think Andy wants 2 smaller WR’s who aren’t capable of blocking well.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by In58men

If he put on about 10-12 lbs of muscle and ran 4.30 I’d still take him lol.

Texas ain't exactly some South Dakota high school squad, fellas.

The facilities at UT are state of the art. Their strength and conditioning program is probably as good as ours is.

If the guy wasn't able to put on weight at UT, he's probably just not a guy that can carry a ton of weight. And that's fine - just won't be his game. Some guys are just always going to be more angular in their build.

The issue I see with trading speed for a little more weight here is that if you do that, you're just turning him into Jalin Hyatt. I'd rather keep the additional speed and have an actual unique skill-set.

And if I thought "Hey, what if I got him to 175 and a 4.32" then why wouldn't I just take Devontez Walker? He's 6'1" and 195 lbs and ran a 4.36. Or Adonai Mitchell at 6'2'', 205 with a 4.34.

Taking guys with unique skill sets and then 'trading' them to make them fit a particular mold is odd to me. If you want a mold, just draft that mold. There are guys that fit them.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He’s incredibly fast but I think Hollywood will play his role primarily. I don’t think Andy wants 2 smaller WR’s who aren’t capable of blocking well.

Even if you believe this, Hollywood is on a one year deal.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Even if you believe this, Hollywood is on a one year deal.

Would still rather try to use this season to draft someone who has a better size/speed combination.

Then I can use this season to work him into the offense, get him up to speed and have him at full gallop next season. And if Brown is an ideal fit and we can retain him somehow, we're at 3 complementary guys. If Brown doesn't work out as well as we'd hoped, we had an understudy that can come in and we can draft a new deep threat NEXT season.

Same thought I had last year - draft your deep guy when you NEED your deep guy; that was why I loved the Rice pick over the board consensus in Hyatt.

Unless you're going to pivot to an offense that's predicated on speed out wide and move Rice into a heavy slot role more often. If we do that, I can see Worthy being someone we're looking at in the 1st.

But I kinda doubt we will. It's an awfully massive pivot for a team coming off back to back SB wins.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Even if you believe this, Hollywood is on a one year deal.

Seriously. Brown has **** all to do with the organization determining if they want Worthy or not.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Would still rather try to use this season to draft someone who has a better size/speed combination.

Then I can use this season to work him into the offense, get him up to speed and have him at full gallop next season. And if Brown is an ideal fit and we can retain him somehow, we're at 3 complementary guys. If Brown doesn't work out as well as we'd hoped, we had an understudy that can come in and we can draft a new deep threat NEXT season.

Same thought I had last year - draft your deep guy when you NEED your deep guy; that was why I loved the Rice pick over the board consensus in Hyatt.

Unless you're going to pivot to an offense that's predicated on speed out wide and move Rice into a heavy slot role more often. If we do that, I can see Worthy being someone we're looking at in the 1st.

But I kinda doubt we will. It's an awfully massive pivot for a team coming off back to back SB wins.

Which WR do you like or prefer?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Seriously. Brown has **** all to do with the organization determining if they want Worthy or not.

He should.

There will be another Worthy next season. Every year there's another fast, slight WR.

Again, we had literally this exact same conversation about Jalin Hyatt last season. And now there's a faster version of him in Worthy this season. And next year there's gonna be another someone who runs really fast and weighs a buck seventy.

These guys exist in every single draft. Take them when you need them. With the Brown signing, we don't need them this year. If you're going to 'redshirt' someone, don't redshirt a speed guy. Redshirt someone like Walker or Leggett who may need some time to understand the nuances of the offense and can take on a more varied role when they do.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Would still rather try to use this season to draft someone who has a better size/speed combination.

Then I can use this season to work him into the offense, get him up to speed and have him at full gallop next season. And if Brown is an ideal fit and we can retain him somehow, we're at 3 complementary guys. If Brown doesn't work out as well as we'd hoped, we had an understudy that can come in and we can draft a new deep threat NEXT season.

Same thought I had last year - draft your deep guy when you NEED your deep guy; that was why I loved the Rice pick over the board consensus in Hyatt.

Unless you're going to pivot to an offense that's predicated on speed out wide and move Rice into a heavy slot role more often. If we do that, I can see Worthy being someone we're looking at in the 1st.

But I kinda doubt we will. It's an awfully massive pivot for a team coming off back to back SB wins.

I think they pivoted to the model they did out of necessity, not necessarily out of choice, because of what was available. Which is....well smart. Take the guys you have an opportunity to get, build to their skillset and move forward.

If they have a guy they think can be a legit deep threat, top off big play guy, take him and do it. I don't know if that's Worthy or not, but the theory of it would make sense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Which WR do you like or prefer?

Question's a little too broad.

In the first, probably none of them. I think I'm moving away from a 1st round WR and would prefer we go with an OT. I think I like Morgan the most from a combination of ceiling/floor. And if the OT hits and Morris continues to develop, we can move one of those guys into play OG when Smith walks next season.

In the 2nd - really depends on the board. But I think my preference at the moment is 'Tez Walker.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He should.

There will be another Worthy next season. Every year there's another fast, slight WR.

Again, we had literally this exact same conversation about Jalin Hyatt last season. And now there's a faster version of him in Worthy this season. And next year there's gonna be another someone who runs really fast and weighs a buck seventy.

These guys exist in every single draft. Take them when you need them. With the Brown signing, we don't need them this year. If you're going to 'redshirt' someone, don't redshirt a speed guy. Redshirt someone like Walker or Leggett who may need some time to understand the nuances of the offense and can take on a more varied role when they do.

Leggett is my preference. Having Rice and Leggett next year and then drafting a deep threat would be amazing.