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**Saulbadguy** · 11-15-2009, 11:54 AM

I know there are enough of us to participate in this thread, even when our seasons inevitably go to shit.

KSU vs Western Illinois today, tip-off at 3:00 pm.

One thing I noticed near the end of the game on Friday night - we had 5 true freshman on the court, and still played sound basketball. None of them were scrub walk-ons either. While I don't think we will make a serious run at anything this year, the foundation is being laid for a solid program in the future.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-23-2009, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Yes, and we need to learn all the catch phrases that our little brothers use:

"We get everybody's A game".

"Other teams throw up garbage/prayer/contested/ shots that always fall".

Feel free to add others.

Bitch about the refs, non-stop.

58kcfan89 · 12-23-2009, 08:02 PM

My personal favorite was:
"If it wasn't for the 3-point line, we would have won."

Heard that one after 84-75.

WilliamTheIrish · 12-23-2009, 08:03 PM

Side bar: Anybody else see the vid of Derrick Roland fracturing his his lower leg (tib/fib)?

Those fractures are so nasty looking. Plate, screws.. possible tibial rod. Ouch!

kstater · 12-23-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Yes, and we need to learn all the catch phrases that our little brothers use:

"We get everybody's A game".

"Other teams throw up garbage/prayer/contested/ shots that always fall".

Feel free to add others.

Oh hey, it took all of 3 clicks to find a reference.

"Are we also allowed to bring up the fact that Cal hit an insane amount of long shots with a hand in their face, which would have turned the game into a rout had those not fallen?"

WilliamTheIrish · 12-23-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Bitch about the refs, non-stop.

No. That doesn't happen there. Only in our place with the angry coach and the angrier fan base.

not kitten_mittons · 12-23-2009, 08:32 PM

Sherron Collins' dog got sick the night before, his head wasn't in the game.

Dante84 · 12-23-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by not kitten_mittons

Sherron Collins' dog got sick the night before, his penis head wasn't in his pants in the elevator.

FYP

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 12-23-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Bitch about the refs, non-stop.

go back to your own country

Coach · 12-24-2009, 01:34 PM

Enjoy.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday....ce-mas-to-you/

58kcfan89 · 12-24-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Enjoy.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday....ce-mas-to-you/

I can't stand the man, but that's hilarious.

hawkchief · 12-24-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I don't think we'll fall that far - still in the Top 10-15 imo.

Congrats on the RPI award for the first month of the season! Make sure to get a banner up.

Small steps grapes, small steps.

**ChiTown** · 12-24-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief

Congrats on the RPI award for the first month of the season! Make sure to get a banner up.

Small steps grapes, small steps.

Ahh.

I think it's cute how CockThief can't stay out of a Kansas State thread. Watching CockThief enter into these threads is like watching the reeruns lick the windows on the Short Bus.

WilliamTheIrish · 12-25-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

No. That doesn't happen there. Only in our place with the angry coach and the angrier fan base.

Skip did not approve of this comment!

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***The Official EMAW... 12-23-2009 11:40 PM Skip Towne I wonder how mouthy you would be if your team actually won something.

Old Scrooge in the holiday spirit.

WilliamTheIrish · 12-26-2009, 04:17 PM

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...to_slower_lane

=======================================================

MIAMI — There was a time, and it wasn't long ago, where Michael Beasley would blow through $20,000 in a night, awaken and want to do it again. Spend fast, drive fast, party fast.

He was an NBA millionaire, living like repercussions need not apply, trusting almost everybody, listening to almost nobody.

And then, he insists, two people changed his ways without saying a word.

The Miami Heat forward says he decided to try escaping his destructive patterns because of his children — Mikaiya, his 7-month-old daughter, and Pierce, his 4-month-old son.

"They're everything to me," said Beasley, who revitalized interest in the Kansas State program during his one season in Manhattan.

Beasley knows it sounds cliche, and doesn't care. When 2009 began, he was on the cusp of becoming out of control, with priorities driven way out of whack by his own apparent inability to handle the combination of acquiring copious riches and copious fame in a short time.

He spent much of the summer in a rehabilitation facility getting treatment for substance abuse, particularly marijuana, and endured the indignity of having to deal with that delicate situation in a very public manner.

As the year ends, he says everything is different.

___

His is a nontraditional family. Beasley's kids are in South Florida, living with their respective mothers in separate residences, but he can see them daily when the Heat are home. He monitors spending like never before, checking credit reports and credit card bills regularly, and laments not having more already stashed in his savings account.

A big night out typically involves video games and crashing on teammate Daequan Cook's sofa. And the NBA game is slowing down for him, too.

Michael Beasley, all of 20 years old, says he's growing up.

"People think maybe I cleaned my act up for the moment," Beasley said. "But I know that if I were to mess up again, everything in my past would be brought up. I'm a whole lot slower now. Not on the court, but I move slow. I take life by strides now. I'm more relaxed than I was. I was a fast motor, the Energizer bunny, got to be here, here, here, every party. Now I sit on my bed and watch Roseanne."

And he says he doesn't miss the fast-lane lifestyle.

"Not one bit," Beasley said, without hesitation.

Beasley went through — put himself through — more this year than some people will deal with in a lifetime.

He said this fall that one more strike against him would have led to a suspension through the NBA substance-abuse policy, which means he already had two strikes. His parents both made headlines for things they posted on Twitter, the social networking site that Beasley used to get himself in trouble through his words and a link to the now-infamous tattoo photo that some thought captured a bag of marijuana on a nearby table.

He found his role with the Heat, becoming a full-time starter at forward. He became a father twice by two women. He didn't remain romantically involved with either woman, but works with both to raise his children in what he hopes is the right way. That is especially important to him because his father wasn't always around. He got stronger, physically and mentally.

That's a full year.

"He put the scarlet letter on his back, himself. And he's got to deal with it," Heat president Pat Riley said last week. "And he's dealing with it as best as a 20-year-old can deal with it. We're helping him, facilitating everything we can to help him and all of our players, to limit whatever kind of load is out there so he can concentrate."

Even those who really know Beasley can find themselves wondering exactly who he is at times.

Is he the goof who sings "I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid," in the locker room after a game? The guy who wowed the Heat by once sitting down at a piano and starting to play without warning, even though he hadn't taken a lesson in years? The homebody who can rip cars and computers apart and usually put them back together? The budding artist who wants to finish a mural of his teammates by season's end? The addict who needed rehab and flies in someone he met during rehab once a month to play chess?

Try all the above.

And Beasley's basketball game is better for it, too.

"He's playing great right now," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "I thought even last year, look, he was up and down like rookies will be, but scoring is easy for him. It comes very naturally, very easily, even against good defense. He can get a good shot anytime he gets the ball. ... On defense, I don't think he's at the point where you can go in and just pick on him at the other end of the floor.

"He's made great strides."

___

Amid all the off-the-court changes that went into Beasley's reinvention, his work ethic on the floor may be better than ever.

Throughout high school, AAU basketball, even his one year at Kansas State, there weren't many people who could guard the left-handed Beasley. In the NBA, the 6-foot-10 native of Frederick, Md., started finally playing with people better than him, a new and humbling experience.

So he got busy. He could not play defense the way an NBA player should when Miami chose him No. 2 in the 2008 draft, not even close, and he didn't seem necessarily bothered by that when his pro career began. Now, when he gets beat or blows a defensive assignment, Beasley gets demonstrably upset with himself and bears down even harder at both ends of the floor.

"Playing like that, that's the Bob McAdoo in me," Beasley said, referring to the Hall of Famer and Heat assistant coach. "I pick his brain all the time. He tells me, 'Don't let anybody score, and if they score, you get one right back.' Not a bad way to play at all for me."

He is averaging 15.5 points and 7.0 rebounds, both ahead of last year's pace, and he'll play in an NBA Christmas Day game for the first time Friday when Miami visits the New York Knicks.

Beasley listens now. That didn't happen a year ago.

It's just another sign of the maturation process.

"When you have kids, you grow a lot faster than you normally would," said Cook, Beasley's close friend and another young father. "You've got to mature a lot faster. He understands what you can and can't do now that you have kids. You have to be a role model for them. You're their father, they look up to you a lot more. Having kids, I think everything's a lot slower, a lot smoother for him now."

___

Part of the rehab experience involved Beasley being forced to think about his future, about his kids, and how he would provide if the NBA riches all went away — one of the countless reasons why he says he's now embracing a life of sobriety.

Yes, he has a lot of cars, at least half a dozen. He said last year he had more televisions in his house than he had rooms. He likes nice clothes, new gadgets, things like that, and his $4.9 million salary this season allows for plenty of fun.

Then he came to realize, $35,000 worth of partying in a weekend, that tends to add up quickly.

"When I first started getting paychecks, you couldn't tell me anything," Beasley said. "December of last year, I looked at my savings and I had money but I didn't have as much as I want. That's when it hit me: If I keep spending at this rate, I'm going to be one of those players they talk about."

Now? He swears, he's not that guy anymore.

Beasley rarely misses a chance to say how appreciative he is that the Heat, Riley, coach Erik Spoelstra and teammates stood by him during the rehab fallout. At the same time, he believes there's people out there waiting for him to fail, to go back to drugs, to parties, to see if he'll waste the unbelievable opportunity the NBA provides.

That's when he thinks of Mikaiya, thinks of Pierce. And everything, in those moments, seems right for Michael Beasley.

"My future is up to me," Beasley said. "Their future depends on me. I don't take anything more seriously

WilliamTheIrish · 12-26-2009, 04:27 PM

Frank's awesome: Love the guy.

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...amiliar_mantra

=========================================================

MANHATTAN — If you follow Kansas State sports, the phrase should have a familiar ring.

Typically, though, it comes from a different source.

"I'm trying to get better every day," coach Frank Martin said.

That was and is the mantra of football coach Bill Snyder, who built K-State into a national contender in the 1990s. Halfway through his third season, Martin appears to have the basketball program moving in the same direction.

The Wildcats are 11-1 and ranked 12th in the nation heading into Christmas break, which Martin uses to designate the halfway point of the season.

Martin, again channeling his football counterpart, said he wasted no energy trying to predict where K-State would be at this juncture.

"I ain't bright enough to look at our schedule and say, 'Middle of December, let's be the 12th-ranked team, let's be 11-1,'" he said. "I think people who think that way are setting themselves up for failure. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

"All I care about is the day that I'm living, getting better today, and being as prepared as I can so we can improve a little more tomorrow. That's how I think."

Can't argue with the approach. The Wildcats currently sit at No. 2 in the RPI, and their nonconference resume includes wins against Xavier, Dayton and UNLV.

The challenge now becomes steering clear of the hype.

"I don't know how many people on the team check that stuff," guard Jacob Pullen said. "For us now, it's just a matter of preparing for each day. No letdowns."

In hindsight, the watershed moment came after a lackluster performance against Fort Hays State on Dec. 1. Martin issued a public challenge to his team, and it was apparent the Wildcats could go one of two directions.

K-State responded with its best stretch of basketball, recording consecutive wins against Washington State, Xavier, UNLV and Alabama.

"After Fort Hays State, I guess I questioned whether some guys wanted to be here," Martin said. "They've proven to me that they do. We've got a locker room full of guys that are committed to growing and getting better."

The strength of the team, as expected, has been its balance. Jacob Pullen has emerged as the go-to scorer at 20 points per game, but teammates Denis Clemente, Curtis Kelly and Jamar Samuels also average double figures.

"Offensively, I think we continue to do a better job of passing the ball," Martin said. "We've got balance. We've got numerous guys that have scored the basketball for us at different times in the year."

The hot start has elevated K-State's national profile and established the Wildcats as a darkhorse contender in the Big 12 race. But all of that will be history by the time the Wildcats return from Christmas break, Martin said.

"When we get back on the 26th, we break everything down again and start from scratch," Martin said. "You've got your pre-Christmas season and your post-Christmas season. We'll get after it again on the 26th."

========================================================

Not too shabby.

11-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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12-26-2009, 04:17 PM	#644
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $3720607	http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...to_slower_lane ======================================================= MIAMI — There was a time, and it wasn't long ago, where Michael Beasley would blow through $20,000 in a night, awaken and want to do it again. Spend fast, drive fast, party fast. He was an NBA millionaire, living like repercussions need not apply, trusting almost everybody, listening to almost nobody. And then, he insists, two people changed his ways without saying a word. The Miami Heat forward says he decided to try escaping his destructive patterns because of his children — Mikaiya, his 7-month-old daughter, and Pierce, his 4-month-old son. "They're everything to me," said Beasley, who revitalized interest in the Kansas State program during his one season in Manhattan. Beasley knows it sounds cliche, and doesn't care. When 2009 began, he was on the cusp of becoming out of control, with priorities driven way out of whack by his own apparent inability to handle the combination of acquiring copious riches and copious fame in a short time. He spent much of the summer in a rehabilitation facility getting treatment for substance abuse, particularly marijuana, and endured the indignity of having to deal with that delicate situation in a very public manner. As the year ends, he says everything is different. ___ His is a nontraditional family. Beasley's kids are in South Florida, living with their respective mothers in separate residences, but he can see them daily when the Heat are home. He monitors spending like never before, checking credit reports and credit card bills regularly, and laments not having more already stashed in his savings account. A big night out typically involves video games and crashing on teammate Daequan Cook's sofa. And the NBA game is slowing down for him, too. Michael Beasley, all of 20 years old, says he's growing up. "People think maybe I cleaned my act up for the moment," Beasley said. "But I know that if I were to mess up again, everything in my past would be brought up. I'm a whole lot slower now. Not on the court, but I move slow. I take life by strides now. I'm more relaxed than I was. I was a fast motor, the Energizer bunny, got to be here, here, here, every party. Now I sit on my bed and watch Roseanne." And he says he doesn't miss the fast-lane lifestyle. "Not one bit," Beasley said, without hesitation. Beasley went through — put himself through — more this year than some people will deal with in a lifetime. He said this fall that one more strike against him would have led to a suspension through the NBA substance-abuse policy, which means he already had two strikes. His parents both made headlines for things they posted on Twitter, the social networking site that Beasley used to get himself in trouble through his words and a link to the now-infamous tattoo photo that some thought captured a bag of marijuana on a nearby table. He found his role with the Heat, becoming a full-time starter at forward. He became a father twice by two women. He didn't remain romantically involved with either woman, but works with both to raise his children in what he hopes is the right way. That is especially important to him because his father wasn't always around. He got stronger, physically and mentally. That's a full year. "He put the scarlet letter on his back, himself. And he's got to deal with it," Heat president Pat Riley said last week. "And he's dealing with it as best as a 20-year-old can deal with it. We're helping him, facilitating everything we can to help him and all of our players, to limit whatever kind of load is out there so he can concentrate." Even those who really know Beasley can find themselves wondering exactly who he is at times. Is he the goof who sings "I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid," in the locker room after a game? The guy who wowed the Heat by once sitting down at a piano and starting to play without warning, even though he hadn't taken a lesson in years? The homebody who can rip cars and computers apart and usually put them back together? The budding artist who wants to finish a mural of his teammates by season's end? The addict who needed rehab and flies in someone he met during rehab once a month to play chess? Try all the above. And Beasley's basketball game is better for it, too. "He's playing great right now," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "I thought even last year, look, he was up and down like rookies will be, but scoring is easy for him. It comes very naturally, very easily, even against good defense. He can get a good shot anytime he gets the ball. ... On defense, I don't think he's at the point where you can go in and just pick on him at the other end of the floor. "He's made great strides." ___ Amid all the off-the-court changes that went into Beasley's reinvention, his work ethic on the floor may be better than ever. Throughout high school, AAU basketball, even his one year at Kansas State, there weren't many people who could guard the left-handed Beasley. In the NBA, the 6-foot-10 native of Frederick, Md., started finally playing with people better than him, a new and humbling experience. So he got busy. He could not play defense the way an NBA player should when Miami chose him No. 2 in the 2008 draft, not even close, and he didn't seem necessarily bothered by that when his pro career began. Now, when he gets beat or blows a defensive assignment, Beasley gets demonstrably upset with himself and bears down even harder at both ends of the floor. "Playing like that, that's the Bob McAdoo in me," Beasley said, referring to the Hall of Famer and Heat assistant coach. "I pick his brain all the time. He tells me, 'Don't let anybody score, and if they score, you get one right back.' Not a bad way to play at all for me." He is averaging 15.5 points and 7.0 rebounds, both ahead of last year's pace, and he'll play in an NBA Christmas Day game for the first time Friday when Miami visits the New York Knicks. Beasley listens now. That didn't happen a year ago. It's just another sign of the maturation process. "When you have kids, you grow a lot faster than you normally would," said Cook, Beasley's close friend and another young father. "You've got to mature a lot faster. He understands what you can and can't do now that you have kids. You have to be a role model for them. You're their father, they look up to you a lot more. Having kids, I think everything's a lot slower, a lot smoother for him now." ___ Part of the rehab experience involved Beasley being forced to think about his future, about his kids, and how he would provide if the NBA riches all went away — one of the countless reasons why he says he's now embracing a life of sobriety. Yes, he has a lot of cars, at least half a dozen. He said last year he had more televisions in his house than he had rooms. He likes nice clothes, new gadgets, things like that, and his $4.9 million salary this season allows for plenty of fun. Then he came to realize, $35,000 worth of partying in a weekend, that tends to add up quickly. "When I first started getting paychecks, you couldn't tell me anything," Beasley said. "December of last year, I looked at my savings and I had money but I didn't have as much as I want. That's when it hit me: If I keep spending at this rate, I'm going to be one of those players they talk about." Now? He swears, he's not that guy anymore. Beasley rarely misses a chance to say how appreciative he is that the Heat, Riley, coach Erik Spoelstra and teammates stood by him during the rehab fallout. At the same time, he believes there's people out there waiting for him to fail, to go back to drugs, to parties, to see if he'll waste the unbelievable opportunity the NBA provides. That's when he thinks of Mikaiya, thinks of Pierce. And everything, in those moments, seems right for Michael Beasley. "My future is up to me," Beasley said. "Their future depends on me. I don't take anything more seriously
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12-26-2009, 04:27 PM	#645
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $3720607	Frank's awesome: Love the guy. http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...amiliar_mantra ========================================================= MANHATTAN — If you follow Kansas State sports, the phrase should have a familiar ring. Typically, though, it comes from a different source. "I'm trying to get better every day," coach Frank Martin said. That was and is the mantra of football coach Bill Snyder, who built K-State into a national contender in the 1990s. Halfway through his third season, Martin appears to have the basketball program moving in the same direction. The Wildcats are 11-1 and ranked 12th in the nation heading into Christmas break, which Martin uses to designate the halfway point of the season. Martin, again channeling his football counterpart, said he wasted no energy trying to predict where K-State would be at this juncture. "I ain't bright enough to look at our schedule and say, 'Middle of December, let's be the 12th-ranked team, let's be 11-1,'" he said. "I think people who think that way are setting themselves up for failure. I could be wrong, but that's what I think. "All I care about is the day that I'm living, getting better today, and being as prepared as I can so we can improve a little more tomorrow. That's how I think." Can't argue with the approach. The Wildcats currently sit at No. 2 in the RPI, and their nonconference resume includes wins against Xavier, Dayton and UNLV. The challenge now becomes steering clear of the hype. "I don't know how many people on the team check that stuff," guard Jacob Pullen said. "For us now, it's just a matter of preparing for each day. No letdowns." In hindsight, the watershed moment came after a lackluster performance against Fort Hays State on Dec. 1. Martin issued a public challenge to his team, and it was apparent the Wildcats could go one of two directions. K-State responded with its best stretch of basketball, recording consecutive wins against Washington State, Xavier, UNLV and Alabama. "After Fort Hays State, I guess I questioned whether some guys wanted to be here," Martin said. "They've proven to me that they do. We've got a locker room full of guys that are committed to growing and getting better." The strength of the team, as expected, has been its balance. Jacob Pullen has emerged as the go-to scorer at 20 points per game, but teammates Denis Clemente, Curtis Kelly and Jamar Samuels also average double figures. "Offensively, I think we continue to do a better job of passing the ball," Martin said. "We've got balance. We've got numerous guys that have scored the basketball for us at different times in the year." The hot start has elevated K-State's national profile and established the Wildcats as a darkhorse contender in the Big 12 race. But all of that will be history by the time the Wildcats return from Christmas break, Martin said. "When we get back on the 26th, we break everything down again and start from scratch," Martin said. "You've got your pre-Christmas season and your post-Christmas season. We'll get after it again on the 26th." ======================================================== Not too shabby.
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