****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Rice is good.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We get it, you hated the pick.

Now you just like a fool trying to downplay how good he's been in his first 9 games.

I hated the pick.

But, I think Rice could be great based on what he has done so far. I think it's ridiculous that Nagy and Reid don't scheme for him more.

I posted the video because it shows that while he has the most potential, maybe not getting targets is affecting him, even a little.

Also, I know it's only 9 games, but why is he drifting into the defenders? I understand closing the distance on the defender if your goal is to occupy him, or force him to choose between receivers, or you are flooding an area, but drifting into the defenders while trying to sit down in the zone is just sloppy, and is either poor effort or poor coaching.

And I am being genuine when I say I am a Rashee Rice fan now. He needs to be playing on the outside, where he can use his elite burst to get open. And I don't understand why Reid hates slants so much, but with that initial burst, Rice could be making a killing on slants.

Heck, I think he had a huge play earlier this year on a slant.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

EXCEPT for all the TIMES I clearly DON'T BELIEVE, and ALL the times I SHIT on the TEAM, of course I BELIEVE! They only HAVE TO win EVERY game for me to BELIEVE, or else they SUCK! I BELIEVE!

YAWN! THIS team has no RED ZONE efficiency! Can you NOT see that? Keep in mind - Eagles, Bills and Bengals. YOU think the D is going to save the season? Yes, I AM PISSED right now BUT, I have to still have faith because...I AM STILL A FAN!

Take your MOD BS in another direction - Your opinion means nothing to me!

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

The more I watch this clip, the more I think no one's really open.


Sure, Watson at thhe top of the screen is technically open when he breaks, but firt of all, he's short of the sticks by about 5-6 yards. Two, he's crossing towards the middle at a pretty fast rate; Pat can't throw at Justin or behind him even a little. He has to lead him, and by a decent amount considering how fast Justin's going from left to right.


And the rush beats the OL at about the 4.5sec mark. The ball has to be gone by about 4.7 seconds, right? Stop the clip at 5 sec and go back a tad. Is Justin really 'wide open'?

It doesn't look like it to me. It looks like a rapidly shrinking window that he'd have to lead by 3-4 yards from 28 yards away with a rusher in his face.

I mean, maybe if Watson had come back directly towards Pat more. Would've made it more like 4th and 10, but Pat wouldn't have to lead him, and the defender to the middle wouldn't be in play and the other defender is stacked behind Watson. But he runs across the field.

MVS, well, guessing that has to be MVS streaking down the middle with triple coverage, so he's never open.

Whoever that is underneath MVS isn't open either, plus he's 10 yds short of the sticks?

Gray is never a real target, both because of his depth, and the fact that the rush gets to Pat before he can even look at Gray.

The outlet, as usual, doesn't count.


I don't think anyone's legitmately open in that clip; prove me wrong?

The guy at the top is wide open and most likely gets a first down, or at least, very close.

This is Mahomes at the top of his 5 step drop, just as the receiver is ready to break.

The defender is 5 yards down field and the nearest to him has his back turned in the middle of the field.

This is Mahomes after 2 bunny hops, after the receiver has made his break. The defender is still 4 yards deeper.

If Mahomes lets the ball go at the top of his drop, the receiver catches it in stride and gets a first down. Mahomes never set his feet and he was in zero danger of pressure when he reached the top of his drop. He hit 5 then hop hop and by then it was too late. He's looking left the entire time and should be able to make that throw quickly and easily.

Here's the clip in real time for comparison. Stop it when he reaches his depth and then imagine he throws the ball right then. The receiver in the middle of the field carries his defender down the field and the guy covering the WR is always 3-5 yards deeper.

The Mahomes fumble. 3rd and long, another rep of 12 personnel. RT gets double chip help, however RT's balance is insane and chips help DE get inside. Awful L. Left-side gets obliterated with a TE stunt, zero idea what Thuney is doing. What a mess pic.twitter.com/O25Zy1MyFz

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 6, 2023

EDIT: I will say this. #84 runs a really wacky looking route. Should be a 15yd dig but he kind of double hinges it and stutter steps in the middle of his break. Weird.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

EXCEPT for all the TIMES I clearly DON'T BELIEVE, and ALL the times I SHIT on the TEAM, of course I BELIEVE! They only HAVE TO win EVERY game for me to BELIEVE, or else they SUCK! I BELIEVE!

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Stryker

YAWN! THIS team has no RED ZONE efficiency! Can you NOT see that? Keep in mind - Eagles, Bills and Bengals. YOU think the D is going to save the season? Yes, I AM PISSED right now BUT, I have to still have faith because...I AM STILL A FAN!

Take your MOD BS in another direction - Your opinion means nothing to me!

Your OPINION means so LITTLE to me that I will respong to every POST you make!!

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Stryker

From HBTC says it all, IMHO...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umm3gKApCRY

I have been slammed on this board for my opinions but, I am not thin skinned at all - I can take it. Look, I LOVE this team with all of my heart and soul but I see what you all see but do not want to face it's reality. We are sitting pretty, YES - BUT, we need an offensive FIX fast! That is all I am saying. I love you guys and this board but the CHIEFS need to address the offense if we are going to get this done! Do I BELIEVE? Yes, of course I do! In Reid I trust! Let's turn this offense around already!

Don't post that dipshit.

[O.city]

Updating our chart on WR separation and post throw grade (Catchpoint+YAC)

The Rashid Shaheed agenda is going mainstream and it won't be long before Tank Dell follows suit pic.twitter.com/Gejh55TYZ5

— Jrfortgang (@throwthedamball) November 8, 2023

Aiyuk will look good in Kc next year.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by O.city

Updating our chart on WR separation and post throw grade (Catchpoint+YAC)

The Rashid Shaheed agenda is going mainstream and it won't be long before Tank Dell follows suit pic.twitter.com/Gejh55TYZ5

— Jrfortgang (@throwthedamball) November 8, 2023

Aiyuk will look good in Kc next year.

Man, outside of Watson our WRs do indeed suck at getting separation.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

Updating our chart on WR separation and post throw grade (Catchpoint+YAC)

The Rashid Shaheed agenda is going mainstream and it won't be long before Tank Dell follows suit pic.twitter.com/Gejh55TYZ5

— Jrfortgang (@throwthedamball) November 8, 2023

Aiyuk will look good in Kc next year.

Lol @ the chiefs receivers

[Sassy Squatch]

Look at all the names people were banging the table for at the deadline being right around MVS and Rice.

[O.city]

Look at our boy in the upper right quad. Watson is playing good football. Throw him the ball more.

[O.city]

Ceedee or Aiyuk will be a Chiefs next year. Mark it down in ink.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Look at all the names people were banging the table for at the deadline being right around MVS and Rice.

Ironic isn't it?

[Sassy Squatch]

That chart does show that Moore is absolutely garbage and shouldn't be getting anywhere near the workload he does. He can't make contested catches. He can't separate. He can't run crisp routes. Why is he still getting 30+ snaps a game while Toney and Hardman sit on the benches with their dicks in their hands? It's nonsensical.