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Old 05-18-2023, 01:16 PM   #63272
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Old 05-18-2023, 01:22 PM   #63273
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Old 05-18-2023, 04:17 PM   #63274
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Who ****ing cares. You spent a higher pick on him than we did Mahomes. Chiefs have beaten Surtain every gane averaging close to 30 PPG. He's worthless in changing wins from losses
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Old 05-18-2023, 04:21 PM   #63275
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Now do his career win totals vs the Chiefs!
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That just means that Patrick's Surtain's son always has a really weak defensive backfield playing with him and it's easier to get yards against those guys. You would expect that a ludicrously high first round cornerback wouldn't be the weakest guy in his backfield.
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Old 05-18-2023, 05:02 PM   #63277
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If he gets lucky, maybe NFL voters will take pity and put him in the HOF ala Joe Thomas even though he only ever played for non-playoff teams.
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If he gets lucky, maybe NFL voters will take pity and put him in the HOF ala Joe Thomas even though he only ever played for non-playoff teams.
"Team accomplishments" should not impact any player who has established greatness at the position and was considered consistently great from being enshrined in the PFHOF.

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Now do his career win totals vs the Chiefs!
It would be interesting to know how many current broncos players have ever beaten the Chiefs. It has to be close to zero. Maybe a few have with other teams.
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Old 05-19-2023, 10:49 AM   #63283
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It would be interesting to know how many current broncos players have ever beaten the Chiefs. It has to be close to zero. Maybe a few have with other teams.
Trevor Siemian was drafted in 2015. I don't know if he played that season, but he would make at least one.

ETA - Oops, my mistake. Didn't notice that he moved on to the Bengals.
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Believe our kicker is the lone person.
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Old 05-19-2023, 11:40 AM   #63285
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I think the only time I can remember Patrick Surtain’s name being called against us was his interception off Patrick that was ironically a short pass placed right in Tyreek’s hands and he ****ed it up pretty much gifting an easy pick.

Aside from that he’s pretty much been non-existent
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