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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:38 PM   #6286
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Columbia Missouri? In the South? Hmmm........Or are they just saying that it is better than most Southern College towns?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:40 PM   #6287
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So according to kk MU is on average going to be the 9th best team in the SEC.

Maybe I am a homer but outside of Alabama, Florida, and LSU being the top dogs who should MU really be afraid of and can't beat?
I think they could beat any of those teams, however...

The fact remains that MU hasn't won a conference title in 40 years, and now they are moving to a league that is top to bottom better than the Big XII.

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Old 10-21-2011, 02:41 PM   #6288
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I am really trying to understand, honestly. I never thought of I-70 as being southern, seriously. The exact center of the U.S. is in Lebanon, Kansas, off of 36.

Of course, I argue with the Chicago people about being in the mid-west as well. In the 16 years of being up here, I don't think I have made a change in their minds.
The idiots up here think anything past Kankakee is the South.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:41 PM   #6289
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So according to kk MU is on average going to be the 9th best team in the SEC.

Maybe I am a homer but outside of Alabama, Florida, and LSU being the top dogs who should MU really be afraid of and can't beat?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:42 PM   #6290
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:46 PM   #6291
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I think they could beat any of those teams, however...

The fact remains that MU hasn't won a conference title in 40 years, and now they are moving to a league that is top to bottom better than the Big XII.

Right they could beat those remaining teams so I don't get why they would be any worse shape in the SEC than the Big 12 on average.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:46 PM   #6292
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:47 PM   #6293
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Right they could beat those remaining teams so I don't get why they would be any worse shape in the SEC than the Big 12 on average.
Because the Big 12 is great when KK is making one argument, and then the Big 12 is terrible when he makes a different one. He is very successful with this style of forming an argument, just go with it.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:48 PM   #6294
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The idiots up here think anything past Kankakee is the South.
Exactly, when I look for scores from the Big 12 in the Tribune, usually they can be found in the Southwest, or West section. Sometimes they are actually in the Midwest category, but not always.

Did any of these ****ers ever look at a map?


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Old 10-21-2011, 02:49 PM   #6295
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So if MU goes to the SEC which division are they going in?
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:55 PM   #6296
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So if MU goes to the SEC which division are they going in?
Wasn't it agreed to that they'd be in the east due to Alabammy wanting to stay in division with Auburn and Tennessee?
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Because the Big 12 is great when KK is making one argument, and then the Big 12 is terrible when he makes a different one. He is very successful with this style of forming an argument, just go with it.
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So if MU goes to the SEC which division are they going in?
Since everyone is equal in the SEC, whatever Alabama decides.
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Wasn't it agreed to that they'd be in the east due to Alabammy wanting to stay in division with Auburn and Tennessee?
I don't know that is why I am asking
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