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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:22 PM   #616
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Smith is starting in 2017. If we draft someone this year it'll be round 2 or later . And that dude will be on the bench learning for at least 1.5 seasons while Smith continues business per usual.

This fantasy that Foles can do better than Smith is about as dumb as the arguments a year ago to start Daniel/Murray/Bray when our team started 1-5...
You mean the same last year when you were ready to tank?
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:23 PM   #617
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If everyone else can see it, how could they not?
Ego.

Coaching in particular and pro sports in general aren't exactly staffed with people who are willing to critically examine their own flaws.
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:23 PM   #618
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:24 PM   #619
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He "killed" it in Philly in a gimmick offense that didn't last thru the next season. Just like Kaepernick was figured out.

Speculate all you want, but Smith is here thru 2017.
No he ain't.

Thank God you're not Dorsey.
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:24 PM   #620
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He "killed" it in Philly in a gimmick offense that didn't last thru the next season. Just like Kaepernick was figured out.

Speculate all you want, but Smith is here thru 2017.
Going off of Foles' 1 and 1/2 games he played with us this season, he would have been on pace for 30+ passing TDs. Smith will never sniff that.
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That sucks to think about considering that we could have taken Carr before extending Smith.

These guys are smart, much smarter than we are with this stuff we should assume.. they know that its time. If everyone else can see it, how could they not?
Of course they didn't walk away from Smith after the turnaround they had in 2013 and having traded away two second round picks to San Fran.
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These guys are smart, much smarter than we are with this stuff we should assume.. they know that its time. If everyone else can see it, how could they not?
How smart was Pioli with Cassel?

How smart were Carl and Herm with Huard and Croyle?

Andy Reid's last two QB choices were Alex Smith and Michael Vick.

How smart are they....really?
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Andy Reid wasted no time wheeling and dealing for Alex Smith when he arrived in Kansas City.

He might be regretting that hasty move now. Just listen to what the Kansas City Chiefs’ coach told Oakland Raiders quarterback Derek Carr at the Pro Bowl last week:

Andy Reid: I would've taken you, but I had just taken Alex (Smith)

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/o...terback-020116
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Andy Reid wasted no time wheeling and dealing for Alex Smith when he arrived in Kansas City.

He might be regretting that hasty move now. Just listen to what the Kansas City Chiefs’ coach told Oakland Raiders quarterback Derek Carr at the Pro Bowl last week:

Andy Reid: I would've taken you, but I had just taken Alex (Smith)

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/o...terback-020116
Don't read too much into that statement.
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Carr because he's had the luxury of playing behind the #1 line his career. Cousins' true worth remains to be seen when he doesn't have the luxury of 5 legitimate targets to throw to.
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Legit QBs: Prescott, RW
TBD: Carr, Cousins, Mariota, Winston, Wentz
Overrated QBs: Cam, Tyrod, Luck

Carr because he's had the luxury of playing behind the #1 line his career. Cousins' true worth remains to be seen when he doesn't have the luxury of 5 legitimate targets to throw to.
You can't say Carr isn't legit because of his OL and then say that Prescott is...

Anyone who has seen the throws Carr makes knows he is legit.
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Legit QBs: Prescott, RW
TBD: Carr, Cousins, Mariota, Winston, Wentz
Overrated QBs: Cam, Tyrod, Luck

Carr because he's had the luxury of playing behind the #1 line his career. Cousins' true worth remains to be seen when he doesn't have the luxury of 5 legitimate targets to throw to.

Carr was in the MVP race until he hurt his leg.
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TBD: Carr, Cousins, Mariota, Winston, Wentz
Overrated QBs: Cam, Tyrod, Luck
You can trade Alex Smith with no contract penalty for any of these QBs.

Random selection.

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You can't say Carr isn't legit because of his OL and then say that Prescott is...

Anyone who has seen the throws Carr makes knows he is legit.
Except Dak has been balling out the moment he stepped foot into the league.
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You can't say Carr isn't legit because of his OL and then say that Prescott is...

Anyone who has seen the throws Carr makes knows he is legit.
Just look at the team's total collapse when he went down for evidence of what he provides.
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