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*****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

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Old 04-24-2020, 01:12 PM   #616
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Holy **** you’re an idiot.
I don't don't think so and after Taylor has the better rookie season and career, you'll feel silly.
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I don't don't think so and after Taylor has the better rookie season and career, you'll feel silly.
You'll be dead though so who cares
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I like Taylor, but you can’t ignore the mileage and CEH is a better scheme for the passing game and has better hands. The Chiefs made the right pick.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:15 PM   #619
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Maybe because Edwards-Helaire had more catches last year than Taylor had over three years.
Edelman was a QB in college, Gates a basketball player. All that....he caught more......means nothing.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:16 PM   #621
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I like Taylor, but you can’t ignore the mileage and CEH is a better scheme for the passing game and has better hands. The Chiefs made the right pick.
We don't know that, what we do know is Taylor is bigger and far faster and more productive.

How about we take a wait and see approach, I think Taylor will be the better NFLer.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:18 PM   #622
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Well, then we have a difference of opinion.

I don't think Andy's going to demote Damien after what he did in the last quarter of the season and the playoffs, and most particularly how Damien balled in the SB. Damien earned the right to start the season. Plus, Damien knows the playbook, and at this point, he's the better pass pro guy.

At some point after week 6, CEH might take over (assuming Damien stays healthy, then all bets are off).
He won't have to demote Damian Williams. He'll get hurt at some point and be demoted by default.

Regardless of when that happens, I think they still are going to rotate the two. I'd expect Williams to get more snaps when they're in 12 personnel and CEH to be their guy in 11 personnel.

Williams' one-cut speed works well in the 2 TE sets from under center. CEH's lightning quick feet and make-you-miss ability is huge in shotgun run plays.

Since they're in 11 personnel about 65 percent of the time, CEH will get more touches.
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Yes but none of you people have bothered to read the new CBA.

If any first rounder reaches two Pro Bowls in his first three seasons, his 5th year option then equals the Franchise Tag number.

So if CEH lives up to his potential, he'll likely be with the Chiefs for only 4 years but the Chiefs should get a high Comp Pick in return.
Thankfully the franchise tag number for RBs is manageable. And if this offseason is any indication, a 3-year deal is the new 5-year deal.

Getting waaaaaaaay ahead of ourselves here, but if Clyde is special enough to warrant that higher pricetag of a 5th year option, it might be worth it to just extend him anyway.
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We don't know that, what we do know is Taylor is bigger and far faster and more productive.
And neither do you. The point is, CEH is a better scheme fit for the Chiefs. He catches a ton better and he doesn’t have the fumbling issues, Taylor does. CEH is a more complete player and that’s what you want out of your 1st rounder.
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I don’t think we’ve been this universally excited about a pick since Patrick, and I think it’s because of the excitement that is trickling down from Brett, Andy, EB, Toub and Patrick.

Everyone that matters was *all-****ing-in* on this player. We should be too.
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:23 PM   #626
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Of course mahomes wanted him. That means more passing. Taylor would have slightly changed the formations and play calls
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We don't know that, what we do know is Taylor is bigger and far faster and more productive.

How about we take a wait and see approach, I think Taylor will be the better NFLer.
@ "Far Faster".

I don't give a damn what he timed. When you watch him play, he's not playing at sub 4.4 speed.

And CEH is quicker and shiftier inside a box, which is a far more necessary trait in the NFL, especially when it comes to short yardage situations and making guys miss in open space.

Taylor won't even be the next RB off the board. And i like Taylor.
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And neither do you. The point is, CEH is a better scheme fit for the Chiefs. He catches a ton better and he doesn’t have the fumbling issues, Taylor does. CEH is a more complete player and that’s what you want out of your 1st rounder.
You simply cannot pass up on a college RB putting up....

frosh...1977 6.6 13
soph....2194 7.1 16
jr........2003 6.3 21

That is amazing.

60 rushing TD's in three seasons? Over 6000 yards in three seasons?

Wow!

We don't know if the guy can catch, we do know he can run a 4.38 40.
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You simply cannot pass up on a college RB putting up....

frosh...1977 6.6 13
soph....2194 7.1 16
jr........2003 6.3 21

That is amazing.

60 rushing TD's in three seasons? Over 6000 yards in three seasons?

Wow!

We don't know if the guy can catch, we do know he can run a 4.38 40.
And yet he's still on the board. Maybe you're missing something? I wonder what it could be that you're not considering....
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You simply cannot pass up on a college RB putting up....

frosh...1977 6.6 13
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jr........2003 6.3 21

That is amazing.

60 rushing TD's in three seasons? Over 6000 yards in three seasons?

Wow!

We don't know if the guy can catch, we do know he can run a 4.38 40.
Taylor is very good, no doubt. He was never a fit here. All 4 RB's people have talked about have strengths and weaknesses and Taylor's strengths don't play in our offense. We throw the ball a lot, get people in space, and use outside zone running.
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