Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 419

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Just my opinion, but I think that was more of a sarcastic reply to a sarcastic statement? Eh, I dunno. Name me a Big XII (or division I school, for that matter) that has a "boring atmosphere", especially on gameday.

Hell, Warrensburg and Maryville are pretty freaking fun college towns, or used to be. It's been awhile since I've been to either....

Warrensburg's taken a huge shit. They basically shut down the bar district.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm going to miss Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Waco, Stillwater, etc. when we are forced to play in Gainesville, Athens, Knoxville, Fayetville, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, etc.

You left a few out as usual.

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Hell, from what I hear, Ames is a kick ass college town.

Larry agrees.

|Zach| · 10-21-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Larry agrees.

Interestingly enough that whole ordeal happened in College Town USA. Columbia, Missouri,

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You left a few out as usual.

I also left out Lubbock, TX and Provo, UT.

To your point, that's still supposedly a badass place to watch college football. Shit, they were top 15 to end last season, weren't they?

**Saulbadguy** · 10-21-2011, 02:18 PM

The happiest place on Earth is Manhattan, Kansas.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

COLUMBIA — Touting its independent arts scene, quantity of colleges, homecoming traditions and “healthy dose of Southern charm,” Columbia recently landed on Southern Living Magazine’s list of “The South’s Best College Towns.”

Columbia Missouri? In the South? Hmmm........Or are they just saying that it is better than most Southern College towns?

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Columbia Missouri? In the South? Hmmm........Or are they just saying that it is better than most Southern College towns?

South of the Mason Dixon.

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

The happiest place on Earth is Manhattan, Kansas.

I've been to the vet hospital there a few times and loved that place. I was just pimping it out yesterday to a lady I work with whose daughter was cosidering KSU among others.

Trevo_410 · 10-21-2011, 02:24 PM

it seems alot of st. louis fans are not happy about this. Do you guys think alternating this proposed "holiday" tournament from KC to STL would be a bad thing? or should we just wait for us to develop a rivalry on the east side and eventually start a annual neutral game in stl with that team as well? any other ideas? or should they just deal with it?

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Columbia Missouri? In the South? Hmmm........Or are they just saying that it is better than most Southern College towns?

I think Southern Magazine is probably qualified to judge what exactly fits as Southern, but if you want to argue with them be my guest.

**DeezNutz** · 10-21-2011, 02:26 PM

My name is KK, and the very mention of the SEC makes a bit of urine squeak out of my hang down.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

South of the Mason Dixon.

, ok, you got me I guess. Columbia is just south of the exact center of the U.S. but don't see the Mason Dixon line. I would really like to see where it is in relationship to the MDL.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I think Southern Magazine is probably qualified to judge what exactly fits as Southern, but if you want to argue with them be my guest.

I am really trying to understand, honestly. I never thought of I-70 as being southern, seriously. The exact center of the U.S. is in Lebanon, Kansas, off of 36.

Of course, I argue with the Chicago people about being in the mid-west as well. In the 16 years of being up here, I don't think I have made a change in their minds.

**dirk digler** · 10-21-2011, 02:37 PM

So according to kk MU is on average going to be the 9th best team in the SEC.

Maybe I am a homer but outside of Alabama, Florida, and LSU being the top dogs who should MU really be afraid of and can't beat?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Trevo_410 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Independence, Missouri Casino cash: $3615380	it seems alot of st. louis fans are not happy about this. Do you guys think alternating this proposed "holiday" tournament from KC to STL would be a bad thing? or should we just wait for us to develop a rivalry on the east side and eventually start a annual neutral game in stl with that team as well? any other ideas? or should they just deal with it?
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $1554644	So according to kk MU is on average going to be the 9th best team in the SEC. Maybe I am a homer but outside of Alabama, Florida, and LSU being the top dogs who should MU really be afraid of and can't beat?
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