Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 417

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**DeezNutz** · 10-21-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Actually, Columbia is a fantastic town, and the seamless blend from university to downtown makes for a great atmosphere.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC

Just curious?

do you or did you travel alot for the road games?

I've been to Manhattan, Ames, Lawrence, and Norman. I will plan on making one road game per year in the SEC.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC

Just curious?

do you or did you travel alot for the road games?

We already established that he didn't. But that's only because the venues were not up to par. That's probably how all MU fans think which explains why they don't travel.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Columbia is a fantastic college town. The SEC isn't filled with glamorous destinations, but they are loaded with great college football venues.

**Bowser** · 10-21-2011, 01:53 PM

I really am going to miss going against the old rivals. I mean, just look at this back and forth between the various fans of the assorted schools. That being said, two things -

1) It's going to be a blast forming new rivalries. Yes, we will take it on the chin against these teams the first coule of years, but it can only help us in the long run. If it don't kill ya.....

2) All the KU/KSU/Big XII fans cannot deny that if their schools were offered an opportunity to join the SEC and escape the Texas overlords, every single one of those schools would have jumped feet first at the opportunity. Don't lie, don't act like your school wold be above such actions for the sake of "tradition" or "rivals". You'd be being extremely dishonest with yourself. (I'm not sure of this point has been brought up in this thread or the other one yet, so I figured I'd throw it out there)

Missouri is doing what's best for Missouri, period.

bobbything · 10-21-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

The rivalry is what is because KU hates MU & MU hates KU and we want, and hope for, the worst for our counterpart. It has nothing to do with being in the same conference.

If you honestly don't think the rivalry would take a significant hit if KU and MU weren't in the same conference, then arguing about this is moot.

I think it has a lot to do with being in the same conference.

**Bowser** · 10-21-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

Finally, someone that gets it.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah....Columbia ranks right up there with the best SEC towns. Columbia has always been this hidden gem in the crapfest that is the Big 12.

COLUMBIA — Touting its independent arts scene, quantity of colleges, homecoming traditions and “healthy dose of Southern charm,” Columbia recently landed on Southern Living Magazine’s list of “The South’s Best College Towns.”

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Columbia is a fantastic college town. The SEC isn't filled with glamorous destinations, but they are loaded with great college football venues.

So what exactly makes Columbia a "fantastic college town" and Lawrence/Manhattan/Ames/pretty much every other Big 12 town shitty?

**Bowser** · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So what exactly makes Columbia a "fantastic college town" and Lawrence/Manhattan/Ames/pretty much every other Big 12 town shitty?

Not to answer for him, but who said that?

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

COLUMBIA — Touting its independent arts scene, quantity of colleges, homecoming traditions and “healthy dose of Southern charm,” Columbia recently landed on Southern Living Magazine’s list of “The South’s Best College Towns.”

Congrats?

**Bowser** · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

Hell, from what I hear, Ames is a kick ass college town.

**dirk digler** · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Caller - MU is already middle to upper level of the SEC

I think they would be about in the same position in either conference football wise.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So what exactly makes Columbia a "fantastic college town" and Lawrence/Manhattan/Ames/pretty much every other Big 12 town shitty?

Those beautiful red-brick smokestacks strewn all over the place.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $766966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $1691616	I really am going to miss going against the old rivals. I mean, just look at this back and forth between the various fans of the assorted schools. That being said, two things - 1) It's going to be a blast forming new rivalries. Yes, we will take it on the chin against these teams the first coule of years, but it can only help us in the long run. If it don't kill ya..... 2) All the KU/KSU/Big XII fans cannot deny that if their schools were offered an opportunity to join the SEC and escape the Texas overlords, every single one of those schools would have jumped feet first at the opportunity. Don't lie, don't act like your school wold be above such actions for the sake of "tradition" or "rivals". You'd be being extremely dishonest with yourself. (I'm not sure of this point has been brought up in this thread or the other one yet, so I figured I'd throw it out there) Missouri is doing what's best for Missouri, period.
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $1691616	Hell, from what I hear, Ames is a kick ass college town.
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