Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 414

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Agreed, no team has actually won it all in (2) decades, but IMO they have mattered. I know 1988 doesn't fit into your "modern era" but OU had a pretty nice run that year. Texas has had several, OSU and others have had the teams to do it.

Do you think Florida will continue with the pattern they set of two championships? They missed the tournament 2 years in a row, then lost first round. But there is hope for them, the lost to Butler last year.

But then again, I am not sure why we are even discussing this. The SEC doesn't give a crap about College BB. Just ask Rick Pitino, Billy Donovan, Kevin Stallings, Mike Anderson etc.

1988 absolutely fits in the modern era. A couple of teams have had made nice runs. There have been a couple of Final Fours and several Elite Eights scattered about, but none of the programs really "matter".

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

KK: Deaton has cold feet

Kietzman has sources!!!

evenfall · 10-21-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

KK: Deaton has cold feet

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:14 PM

Kietzman saying that Hoenig didn't want to work with Mizzou, so he's leaving to be the #2 at the FDIC.

bobbything · 10-21-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

If anything other than bruised labias come into play, they will. I've heard over and over that this is a great rivalry that MU should work to preserve. If KU won't play us in the non-con, then it really wasn't a rivalry. It was just a game that they played because it was on the schedule.

If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game. In basketball, it doesn't benefit KU at all financially; any more than scheduling some low-level D1 school. So, that leaves the rivalry; which is built on ego and spite. Both schools are at fault here. And as far as I'm concerned, it shows how strong the hatred is for one another.

The hate is stronger than the rivalry. That says a lot.

tomahawk kid · 10-21-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Kietzman saying that Hoenig didn't want to work with Mizzou, so he's leaving to be the #2 at the FDIC.

So - he had "sources" saying Hoenig was the guy and now Hoenig took an appointment from the White House.

SO - OBVIOUSLY, there's turmoil within the BOC.

It couldn't be something more obvious - like he was wrong about Hoenig being the President in waiting for the MU system.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-21-2011, 01:21 PM

How can KK possibly misread a press conference so badly? Deaton doesn't have a decision; the decision has been made.

**dirk digler** · 10-21-2011, 01:21 PM

now KK is trying to put a guilt trip on Deaton.

so yeah he is an asshole

beer bacon · 10-21-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game. In basketball, it doesn't benefit KU at all financially; any more than scheduling some low-level D1 school. So, that leaves the rivalry; which is built on ego and spite. Both schools are at fault here. And as far as I'm concerned, it shows how strong the hatred is for one another.

The hate is stronger than the rivalry. That says a lot.

No incentive except the 100+ year old rivalry. Right?

If KU refuses to play us, we could pile up some wins due to forfeit.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

If KU were to bend over keep playing MU, it would basically turn into the MU/Illinois game. :yawn

There is no incentive for KU to agree to play MU, in Missouri, if MU were to go to the SEC. In football, KU can make that money up in another game.

The ****? What game is KU going to schedule that makes as much money as the Border War at Arrowhead?

As far as Illinois goes, MU/Illinois don't have a 100+ year history. Champaign is 200 miles from the nearest big city in Missouri. Missourians never burned Champaign to the ground. That is a piss-poor comparison.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:26 PM

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 01:26 PM

I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-21-2011, 01:26 PM

We're going to lose Lee's Summit Mizzou fans to Kansas. /KK

Reerun_KC · 10-21-2011, 01:29 PM

so when is the date that you guys make it official?

tomahawk kid · 10-21-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How can KK possibly misread a press conference so badly? Deaton doesn't have a decision; the decision has been made.

Correct.

Deaton doesn't get the authority unless the decision has been made.

If the BOC did that, it could (theoretically) breach their fiduciary to the University.

KK is high comedy these days.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Kietzman saying that Hoenig didn't want to work with Mizzou, so he's leaving to be the #2 at the FDIC. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $1450194	How can KK possibly misread a press conference so badly? Deaton doesn't have a decision; the decision has been made. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City. He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City. He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $1450194	We're going to lose Lee's Summit Mizzou fans to Kansas. /KK __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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Reerun_KC Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7231160	so when is the date that you guys make it official?
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