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Old 03-16-2023, 05:39 PM   #61801
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I think Denver will be competitive this next year or two. Payton did underachieve with a HOF QB having Brees as long as he did but to be fair, Brees did his own fair share of choking it up in the playoffs.
Denver has not had competent leadership for sometime now and Payton knows how to put a staff together and keep a team competitive like Reid did in Philly before coming here. He isn't going to win anything significant with Russ but I would expect them to play a lot smarter next season.
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Old 03-16-2023, 05:48 PM   #61802
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I think Denver will be competitive this next year or two. Payton did underachieve with a HOF QB having Brees as long as he did but to be fair, Brees did his own fair share of choking it up in the playoffs.
Denver has not had competent leadership for sometime now and Payton knows how to put a staff together and keep a team competitive like Reid did in Philly before coming here. He isn't going to win anything significant with Russ but I would expect them to play a lot smarter next season.
They might win a game or two more, but they are still at best the third most talented team in the AFCW. Payton is overrated, but he’s still better than who they had, but even he can only do so much with so little.
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I think Denver will be competitive this next year or two. Payton did underachieve with a HOF QB having Brees as long as he did but to be fair, Brees did his own fair share of choking it up in the playoffs.
Denver has not had competent leadership for sometime now and Payton knows how to put a staff together and keep a team competitive like Reid did in Philly before coming here. He isn't going to win anything significant with Russ but I would expect them to play a lot smarter next season.
He does? He hired Vance ****ing Joseph, and Joe Lombardi. 2 of the worst coordinators he could have hired. Doesn’t seem like a great staff to me.
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He does? He hired Vance ****ing Joseph, and Joe Lombardi. 2 of the worst coordinators he could have hired. Doesn’t seem like a great staff to me.
Joe Lombardi is quite underwhelming but like Reid he will be handling the offense and Joseph is not a bad coordinator. Terrible HC for sure but a decent coordinator in the right situation. I am just saying I have seen him assemble and reassemble various staffs and usually do pretty well with them. I have lived outside of New Orleans for the last 20 years so I was here when they hired him and unfortunately had to be exposed to more Saints crap than I would have preferred (Worst sports reporters and homers I have ever seen).

Frankly I can't stand him as I think he is a piece of crap both in his profession and personal life.
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They might win a game or two more, but they are still at best the third most talented team in the AFCW. Payton is overrated, but he’s still better than who they had, but even he can only do so much with so little.
I would agree with that and even throw in that they have the worst QB in the division as well. The good news is that Payton will likely over time run them into the ground cap wise before he darts off again sometime in the next 5-7 years.
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Joe Lombardi is quite underwhelming but like Reid he will be handling the offense and Joseph is not a bad coordinator. Terrible HC for sure but a decent coordinator in the right situation. I am just saying I have seen him assemble and reassemble various staffs and usually do pretty well with them. I have lived outside of New Orleans for the last 20 years so I was here when they hired him and unfortunately had to be exposed to more Saints crap than I would have preferred (Worst sports reporters and homers I have ever seen).

Frankly I can't stand him as I think he is a piece of crap both in his profession and personal life.
How many years in NO did he have a quarterback as bad as Tater? Hell, even Brees last year he was better than the turd wearing #3 in Dungver. We’ll see how it goes, but their quarterback sucks, their OL sucks, and they’re in the same division as Mahomes and Herbert. NO won their division 6 times in 15 years that Payton was there. He’s not in the same league as Andy.
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How many years in NO did he have a quarterback as bad as Tater? Hell, even Brees last year he was better than the turd wearing #3 in Dungver. We’ll see how it goes, but their quarterback sucks, their OL sucks, and they’re in the same division as Mahomes and Herbert. NO won their division 6 times in 15 years that Payton was there. He’s not in the same league as Andy.
Maybe.

Payton knows how to get the most out of a QB though. Maybe not at Andy's level, but not that far off either. hell, he made Jameis look like a credible starter again. Shit, he made Taysom Hill look like a serviceable QB, and that guy's a TE, for crying out loud.
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How many years in NO did he have a quarterback as bad as Tater? Hell, even Brees last year he was better than the turd wearing #3 in Dungver. We’ll see how it goes, but their quarterback sucks, their OL sucks, and they’re in the same division as Mahomes and Herbert. NO won their division 6 times in 15 years that Payton was there. He’s not in the same league as Andy.
No he is not for sure. Like I said I don't expect them to win anything significant but games against a good coach can turn into outings as tough as it is to play a bad coach with good players ala Staley.
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IMO DJ Jones is actually the better player, he just isn’t a pass rusher.
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Joe Lombardi is quite underwhelming but like Reid he will be handling the offense and Joseph is not a bad coordinator. Terrible HC for sure but a decent coordinator in the right situation. I am just saying I have seen him assemble and reassemble various staffs and usually do pretty well with them. I have lived outside of New Orleans for the last 20 years so I was here when they hired him and unfortunately had to be exposed to more Saints crap than I would have preferred (Worst sports reporters and homers I have ever seen).

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He's never been a head coach?
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Payton knows how to get the most out of a QB though. Maybe not at Andy's level, but not that far off either. hell, he made Jameis look like a credible starter again. Shit, he made Taysom Hill look like a serviceable QB, and that guy's a TE, for crying out loud.
He was also part of the brain trust that paid Hill like a QB.
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Yeah, he’s no GM. But as a OC or a QB whisperer he’s pretty good.
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