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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Basketball doesn't matter. It's secondary.

It's secondary, but it matters to basketball fans. Mizzou doesn't lose anything even in basketball by moving to the SEC. That's the funniest part. The beaks don't even get to crow about that. There are better teams in the SEC than in the Big XII, and those schools couldn't give a shit about basketball.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I agree that UK bball trumps KU bball (thanks to a KU grad) in terms of overall success. But I'm just wondering which NCAA championship you're not counting for KU? 1988?

Also, are you saying there were no basketball champions before 1939?

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

1952?

Bambi · 10-21-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

So Kentucky has 5 National Championships, not 8...correct?

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's secondary, but it matters to basketball fans. Mizzou doesn't lose anything even in basketball by moving to the SEC. That's the funniest part. The beaks don't even get to crow about that. There are better teams in the SEC than in the Big XII, and those schools couldn't give a shit about basketball.

Yes, KU is the only basketball school in the Big 12 and the SEC is better in basketball even though nobody pays any attention to it. Spot on analysis.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

1952?

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

They won national championships in 1988 and 2008. Other than that, they never won anything.

Awesome.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yes, KU is the only basketball school in the Big 12 and the SEC is better in basketball even though nobody pays any attention to it. Spot on analysis.

Who is better in the Big XII? Arkansas has won a NC and played in another in the last 20 years. Kentucky has won 2 since then, played in another, and been in the Final Four 5 times in that span. Florida has won 2 national championships since then.

Who in the Big XII can compete with that? Kansas would be the second best program in the SEC. Who else in the Big XII even holds a candle to Florida?

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 12:19 PM

Hope we issue a press release on Sunday after the OSU game.

Bambi · 10-21-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

So Kentucky has 3 National Championships?

How does this work? When did the NCAA Tournament get real?

Priest31kc · 10-21-2011, 12:21 PM

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

haha

Pants · 10-21-2011, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

The NCAA tournament was a secondary tournament back then, similar to what the NIT is now. That's not a direct comparison because it had a little more prestige, but it wasn't the national championship.

Oh yeah, the NCAA tournament was for conference and regional champions while the NIT was for 6 teams invited by a committee. I see your point. Before the tournaments, there were obviously no champions. Good call, man.

Bambi · 10-21-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Oh yeah, the NCAA tournament was for conference and regional champions while the NIT was for 6 teams invited by a committee. I see your point. Before the tournaments, there were obviously no champions. Good call, man.

CCNY won the NIT in 1950.

They are the Champions.

bobbything · 10-21-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

haha

MU is the Brett Favre of collegiate athletics right now.

evenfall · 10-21-2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Being told #mizzou waiting on a counter offer from big 12. These talks r intense a Lotta cash at stake

haha

What a moron.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
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