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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:48 PM   #61246
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It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

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Old 03-01-2023, 12:52 PM   #61247
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It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

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Old 03-01-2023, 12:54 PM   #61248
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Well, to be fair to Payton, he got a damn near 9 figure contract to fix Russ.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:58 PM   #61249
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It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

You mean he didn't take the job to coach a future HOFer?

Wilson's a moron for wanting out of Seattle. If he hadn't left, he'd actually have a shot at a (very undeserved) HOF bid. Fat chance now.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:16 PM   #61250
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You think this is good news?


If Payton thinks Russ is Drew Brees 2.0 he's mad as a hatter.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:39 PM   #61251
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If Payton thinks Russ is Drew Brees 2.0 he's mad as a hatter.
Payton might think he can mold Russ into something like Brees, but there's no way he thinks Russ is Brees. He's always been a great QB evaluator, so he's always known that Brees was one of the best ever in terms of being on time, while Russ has never been very good in that respect. His inability to consistently dot targets over the middle speaks directly to that issue.

It's going to be interesting to see whether Payton can in fact make Russ a better pocket passer that can go through his reads and make decisions on time, or not. Because Payton's offensive philosophy is entirely based on timing and dotting receivers between the numbers, something Wilson has struggled with his entire career.
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Payton might think he can mold Russ into something like Brees, but there's no way he thinks Russ is Brees. He's always been a great QB evaluator, so he's always known that Brees was one of the best ever in terms of being on time, while Russ has never been very good in that respect. His inability to consistently dot targets over the middle speaks directly to that issue.

It's going to be interesting to see whether Payton can in fact make Russ a better pocket passer that can go through his reads and make decisions on time, or not. Because Payton's offensive philosophy is entirely based on timing and dotting receivers between the numbers, something Wilson has struggled with his entire career.
Payton to me is like Kyle Shanahan. Offensive guru but they aren't running anything but their shit.

Broncos should have paid Steichen.
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What are these common traits between Brees and Wilson?

I guess Brees is only an inch or two taller, so there's that...
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They’d love some mediocrity. That’s a pipe dream for that franchise at this point
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Payton to me is like Kyle Shanahan. Offensive guru but they aren't running anything but their shit.

Broncos should have paid Steichen.
Nah, not really. I mean, I get where you could get that from, but Shanahan's overriding philosophy when it comes to QBs is to keep them on a leash; he doesn't want the QB to improv at all. Plus, Shanahan's offense is predicated on that run game. The passing attack is pretty much generated off of it.

Sean Payton is kind of the opposite. Oh, Sean wants to be able to run the ball, but he can operate his offense with a minimal amount of running. He never leaned into the run game the way Shanahan always has. And Payton's passing attack is more advanced than Shanahan's. Finally, Sean will give his QB opportunities to make bigger plays than what the original concept asks for.

Shanahan pretty much doesn't allow his QBs to do that sort of thing. He wants to dictate exactly when and where the QB will take a shot, otherwise he's not a fan of the QB taking those kinds of risks.
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