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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:21 AM   #61171
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I mean, Belicheck thought so little of Patricia as a defensive playcaller that he gave him a coOC job with Judge instead of letting him be DC again.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:26 AM   #61172
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I mean, Belicheck thought so little of Patricia as a defensive playcaller that he gave him a coOC job with Judge instead of letting him be DC again.
Mayo is, presumably, the head coach in waiting in NE. They weren’t going to give Mayo’s job to Patricia.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:28 AM   #61173
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Mayo isn't DC, dumbass. He's the ILB coach and will presumably work his way around the position groups before graduating to DC.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:30 AM   #61174
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We've seen the lengths Belicheck and Kraft will go to to keep staff they think highly of in house. How many times did they convince McDaniels at the 11th hour to stay as OC instead of move on to a HC job elsewhere. With Patricia they gave him a pat on the ass and moved on
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:32 AM   #61175
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As a HC or OC, yeah. His defenses in NE ranked in the top 10 in points allowed every season he called plays.
He has as much to do with that defense as any OC here has with the offense.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:33 AM   #61176
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Mayo isn't DC, dumbass. He's the ILB coach and will presumably work his way around the position groups before graduating to DC.
Exactly.

New England didn't even have a DC last year.

https://www.patriots.com/team/coaches-roster/
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I mean, Belicheck thought so little of Patricia as a defensive playcaller that he gave him a coOC job with Judge instead of letting him be DC again.
Pretty sure the Lions defense was pretty bad when he was the HC.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:39 AM   #61178
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Mayo isn't DC, dumbass. He's the ILB coach and will presumably work his way around the position groups before graduating to DC.
Damn they don’t even have a DC in NE? They just have Steven Belichick and Mayo listed as LB coach and they’re essentially co-defensive coordinators? Belichick has been running a weird operation over there lately.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:40 AM   #61179
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Damn they don’t even have a DC in NE? They just have Steven Belichick and Mayo listed as LB coach and they’re essentially co-defensive coordinators? Belichick has been running a weird operation over there lately.
Except they're not "essentially" anything. They are LB coaches. Bill is the defacto DC.
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Damn they don’t even have a DC in NE? They just have Steven Belichick and Mayo listed as LB coach and they’re essentially co-defensive coordinators? Belichick has been running a weird operation over there lately.
Yeah, putting away the snark for a bit, I honestly have no ****ing idea what he's doing over there. Really bizarre operation.
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Old 02-28-2023, 11:42 AM   #61181
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Except they're not "essentially" anything. They are LB coaches. Bill is the defacto DC.
Mayo called the plays defensively. Has for years, in fact. Now if that's actually running the defense or Bieniemy playcalling I have no idea. I don't typically go out of my way to watch Patriots football
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Kraft is clearly getting kinda pissed off by Bill’s insistence on doing things so ****ing illogically.

If the Patriots keep getting stuck in the muck or even regress, I really wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick get the axe.

And can you really blame Kraft if that were to happen? It’s one thing to lose games by always trying to adapt and change, but it’s quite another to lose games and when you ask why there’s no OC and the DC leadership is a giant question mark, the answer you get is, “Mmmm our coaches are just here to coach. Everything will work itself out.”
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Let's review...

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Denver MAY POSSIBLY MIGHT have an equal training staff ? And some one is on this board bragging about that accomplishment?

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