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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:02 PM   #6001
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Only JJ Watt has more sacks than Von since 2011 and JJ never has to drop into coverage.
I'm the happiest non-Denver fan about the Miller gouging. If Lynch doesn't pan out quickly, they are screwed. It's really all or nothing as you wont have the money for Elway to go after Brees and buy another title.

When Sanchez tanks and the losses start to pile up early...fans are going realize they got ****ed. Eltwat is throwing money at a team without a starting QB....
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:05 PM   #6002
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Dee Ford doesn't finish when he gets to the QB.
You're right, and Hali didn't early in his career either.

The point is though, if you're going to say pressures mean that much, you have to give Ford credit in that department.

We're talking about a guy that barely has a half a seasons worth of snaps. He's going to get better.
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Are you saying he's not an elite edge rusher that showed up huge on the big stage?
He showed up in a contract year. The 4 playoff games before last year he had only 1.5 sacks.

He needs to show up like last year plus get 16+ sacks every season to justify that contract.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:16 PM   #6004
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He showed up in a contract year. The 4 playoff games before last year he had only 1.5 sacks.

He needs to show up like last year plus get 16+ sacks every season to justify that contract.
He needs to play like he did the last two play-off games EVERY game to justify that contract...for 3 straight years w/o Ware.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:21 PM   #6005
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You're right, and Hali didn't early in his career either.

The point is though, if you're going to say pressures mean that much, you have to give Ford credit in that department.

We're talking about a guy that barely has a half a seasons worth of snaps. He's going to get better.
Ford has some burst, but he just doesn't look like a football player. I don't know if he'll ever be a 3 down player but he could become a good pass rush specialist if he learns how to finish and adds a couple more moves.
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He showed up in a contract year. The 4 playoff games before last year he had only 1.5 sacks.

He needs to show up like last year plus get 16+ sacks every season to justify that contract.
You're certainly welcome to think so. See my/staylor's discussion a little earlier for another opinion on that.
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Ford has some burst, but he just doesn't look like a football player. I don't know if he'll ever be a 3 down player but he could become a good pass rush specialist if he learns how to finish and adds a couple more moves.
Yes he does. He's a kid whose shown some flash and upside. Too soon to know but he's definitely in the mix at this point.
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Yes he does. He's a kid whose shown some flash and upside. Too soon to know but he's definitely in the mix at this point.
I just don't think he's physical enough to be an every down player. Maybe that play against SF has forever tainted my perception of him.
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I just don't think he's physical enough to be an every down player. Maybe that play against SF has forever tainted my perception of him.
Like any young player that has the basic skills he gets another year or two to sink or swim. Shaq Barrett is a good example.
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Dee Ford isn't even a poor mans Miller. This is ludicrous.
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Dee Ford isn't even a poor mans Miller. This is ludicrous.
Shut the **** up troll.
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Shut the **** up troll.
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Dee Ford isn't even a poor mans Miller. This is ludicrous.
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Who said he was?
More Hope and Change nonsense. Maybe there's a reason Ford isn't playing a lot of snaps, a reason that doesn't have much to do with Hali/Houston?

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