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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

kstater · 10-20-2011, 05:56 PM

Has Missouri left, or are they still playing the look at me card?

Pants · 10-20-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Has Missouri left, or are they still playing the look at me card?

Quit trolling, dude.

**HemiEd** · 10-20-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Like I said - whatever helps you sleep at night.

Alternatively, you could point out that Missouri has 5 major professional sports teams as well as a handful of other professional teams in lesser sports (soccer, etc...) and that the entertainment options in Missouri absolutely obliterate those available in Kansas, thus the fact that so many Missouri entertainment dollars are spent on University of Missouri football in a professional sports state is actually very damn impressive.

So basically, Missouri is not a college sports state, point made, got it.
That does clear up why their fans feel like they need to be in a stronger conference,............ I think.
It is quite obvious it is not due to past performance.

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But then again, you're pretty much functionally reeruned, so that's probably above your head.

Keep trying, chief. Sooner or later someone will make a salient argument for you and you'll be able to latch onto it. Unfortunately it appears that Saulbadguy and Pants are tired of carrying your water, so you may have to wait awhile.

The old divide an conquer strategy.

|Zach| · 10-20-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Has Missouri left, or are they still playing the look at me card?

Don't get all saucy with those that have cards.

**Saul Good** · 10-20-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

So basically, Missouri is not a college sports state, point made, got it.
That does clear up why their fans feel like they need to be in a stronger conference,............ I think.
It is quite obvious it is not due to past performance.

The old divide an conquer strategy.

They only put 70,000 people in a stadium with 69,000 seats.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 08:47 AM

Mellinger makes the case for the Big 12 tournament staying in KCMO even if Mizzou leaves. He also says the Big 12 is unlikely to break its contract with Sprint Center to have the tournament through 2014.

This would be the best outcome for KU, KSU, and ISU fans, even if Sprint Center is in Missouri.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20...or-big-12.html

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Mellinger makes the case for the Big 12 tournament staying in KCMO even if Mizzou leaves. He also says the Big 12 is unlikely to break its contract with Sprint Center to have the tournament through 2014.

This would be the best outcome for KU, KSU, and ISU fans, even if Sprint Center is in Missouri.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20...or-big-12.html

That's Blair Kerkhoff.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's Blair Kerkhoff.

Is there a difference?

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 08:54 AM

Wasn't the MU meeting yesterday? Or is that happening today?

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 08:56 AM

He makes a good point about the bowl games. The Big XII has contracts with 7 bowls, and only 3 of them are in Big XII states (surprisingly, all in Texas).

We can schedule bowl games outside the Big XII footprint but not a basketball tournament?

Also, the Big XII is pretty much giving up Kansas City as a market if they move the tourney. There will still be alums of KU and KSU, but the casual, unaffiliated fan won't grow up bonding with the conference from their experiences in the Big XII tourney. They'll have to settle for watching football games against Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, etc. and basketball games against Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, and Tennessee.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Wasn't the MU meeting yesterday? Or is that happening today?

There's a meeting starting right now. Supposedly, yesterday's meeting wasn't going to even touch on re-alignment. The rumor is that they actually voted to leave the conference yesterday and notified the conference of their exit and are voting to apply to the SEC today. Just a rumor, though.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-21-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He makes a good point about the bowl games. The Big XII has contracts with 7 bowls, and only 3 of them are in Big XII states (surprisingly, all in Texas).

We can schedule bowl games outside the Big XII footprint but not a basketball tournament?

Also, the Big XII is pretty much giving up Kansas City as a market if they move the tourney. There will still be alums of KU and KSU, but the casual, unaffiliated fan won't grow up bonding with the conference from their experiences in the Big XII tourney. They'll have to settle for watching football games against Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, etc. and basketball games against Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, and Tennessee.

bowl games are between 2 different conferences. It would be impossible to keep them all in conference states, not including the weather factors...

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

bowl games are between 2 different conferences. It would be impossible to keep them all in conference states, not including the weather factors...

They could only be in the states the two conferences are in. They aren't though.

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

There's a meeting starting right now. Supposedly, yesterday's meeting wasn't going to even touch on re-alignment. The rumor is that they actually voted to leave the conference yesterday and notified the conference of their exit and are voting to apply to the SEC today. Just a rumor, though.

Thanks!

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Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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