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Old 10-27-2022, 10:30 AM  
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Old 10-27-2022, 03:05 PM   #586
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He knows how to create separation in routes better than Mecole does. But different skillset, Mecole is an elite athlete with top end speed, Toney is quick twitch and his short area quickness is some of the best I've ever seen.
For sure. Mecole has absurd acceleration but not as much quick twitch. Skyy has that quick twitch but probably more Albert Wilson level vs tyreek or Toney. He can immediately be a short catch and run guy. Tyreek did tons of damage with that last year.
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Old 10-27-2022, 03:05 PM   #587
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from NJ advance media,” In college, Toney averaged 12.6 yards on 11 punt returns in 2020, also scoring on a 50-yard return against Kentucky. ”. At least he’s had more experience than Sky with returning punts in college.
This is where I think he's going to make his immediate mark. There's just too many bodies and question marks on his behalf to expect so much right away. But man! If he can be electric in the return game like Tyreke used to be. That in itself might worth the picks
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Old 10-27-2022, 03:06 PM   #588
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Old 10-27-2022, 03:07 PM   #589
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Honestly, no. He may be excited for the opportunity to play with Mahomes but will that carry over when it's time to hunker down and put in some actual work? I certainly hope so but wouldn't put any bets on it.
I'm not saying I'd bet on it either but I'm certainly more optimistic than you seem to be.
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He knows how to create separation in routes better than Mecole does. But different skillset, Mecole is an elite athlete with top end speed, Toney is quick twitch and his short area quickness is some of the best I've ever seen.
Yep. The actual playing football part doesn't bother me about this guy. But he's as bad news as it comes off the field and as a teammate by most accounts and reports.

He has more potential than Hardman. He is NOT just a gadget guy.
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Said another way, if the Bills just made this trade, would you feel good about things?

I sure as hell wouldn't.
bills have a different mindset. They’re Super Bowl or bust right now until their contracts accelerate next year. If this move allows us to move on from mecole and not take on his new contract numbers, then it’s a good long term move. Meantime he helps us immediately as a punt returner. I’m plenty skeptical of his injuries and attitude but that upside right there is well worth the trade if it works out
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Honestly, no. He may be excited for the opportunity to play with Mahomes but will that carry over when it's time to hunker down and put in some actual work? I certainly hope so but wouldn't put any bets on it.
I'm leaning on their clout, stature and history of success being motivators for him to actually take to heart what they're telling him.

He has a real chance at success here. Surely he knows he's now playing for the best of the best.

That has to carry weight. It's impossible not to. Enough weight to change him? We'll see. But im an optimist so....
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I'm leaning on their clout, stature and history of success being motivators for him to actually take to heart what they're telling him.

He has a real chance at success here. Surely he knows he's now playing for the best of the best.

That has to carry weight. It's impossible not to. Enough weight to change him? We'll see. But im an optimist so....
Exactly.
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bills have a different mindset. They’re Super Bowl or bust right now
With Mahomes as our QB, the Chiefs are SB or bust every year.
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I'm not saying I'd bet on it either but I'm certainly more optimistic than you seem to be.
Yeah, optimism died down quite a bit once I realized "attitude problems" weren't just referring to assholish behavior.
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Not sure why I didn't think about this earlier unless someone else posted it but he has to be healthy to be traded. Has to pass a physical for it to be official.
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I'm leaning on their clout, stature and history of success being motivators for him to actually take to heart what they're telling him.

He has a real chance at success here. Surely he knows he's now playing for the best of the best.

That has to carry weight. It's impossible not to. Enough weight to change him? We'll see. But im an optimist so....
You are also putting him in a WR room with JuJu/MVS two vets that have histories of playing in post season etc.

Add in Kelce/Mahomes the player have the gravity he might respect.

Then Andy Reids experience with helping young guys shed that ****ing thug crap.
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Yep. The actual playing football part doesn't bother me about this guy. But he's as bad news as it comes off the field and as a teammate by most accounts and reports.

He has more potential than Hardman. He is NOT just a gadget guy.
Haven't heard a peep about him as a teammate. You got a link or something for that?
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