Lord of the Rings - Rings of Power

[BigRedChief]

Premieres Sept. 2nd

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by Fish

Did anyone else find it odd that

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Galadriel found out that Halbrand was Sauron and was manipulating Celebrimbor. But yet she's like "Let's make the rings anyway!"

That seemed contradictory to me. Galadriel is basically the sole reason for all the terrible shit that happened during the third age of Middle Earth. And she had multiple opportunities to avert it.

Nah... she was like "it was gonna be one, then two, but let's make 3 of those ****ers instead".

Galadriel is to Elves what Isildur is to Man. Just a constant ****-up.

[Buehler445]

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I mean some sort of dialogue explainer probably fit there. I'm GUESSING they make them to fight Sauron, but that's just a guess.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Fish

Did anyone else find it odd that

Spoiler!

Galadriel found out that Halbrand was Sauron and was manipulating Celebrimbor. But yet she's like "Let's make the rings anyway!"

That seemed contradictory to me. Galadriel is basically the sole reason for all the terrible shit that happened during the third age of Middle Earth. And she had multiple opportunities to avert it.

What other option did she have?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

What other option did she have?

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Load up the elves and head back to Lindor.

Drop the Mithril off in the ocean when they go.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Well, shit. They're in Moria? I really need to pay more attention..

They showed the Balrog down there at the end of one of the episodes when the feather fell. Can't remember which.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They showed the Balrog down there at the end of one of the episodes when the feather fell. Can't remember which.

Yeah, I saw the Balrog as they were closing up the mine, was just not entirely paying attention to why they were so opposed to mining the mythril.

And now that I think about it, is this the Balrog that battles Gandalf all those years later?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yeah, I saw the Balrog as they were closing up the mine, was just not entirely paying attention to why they were so opposed to mining the mythril.

And now that I think about it, is this the Balrog that battles Gandalf all those years later?

Yes probably.

[Stro39]

Originally Posted by Fish

Did anyone else find it odd that

Spoiler!

Galadriel found out that Halbrand was Sauron and was manipulating Celebrimbor. But yet she's like "Let's make the rings anyway!"

That seemed contradictory to me. Galadriel is basically the sole reason for all the terrible shit that happened during the third age of Middle Earth. And she had multiple opportunities to avert it.

Spoiler!

Galadriel doesn't control Sauron or his actions. Sauron is the reason why bad things happened in the Third Age, not Galadriel. Sauron is named the Deciever for a good reason. You don't blame someone for being conned by a conman, end of the day its the conman who is the bad one.

As far as the rings go in the show, this is roughly what happened in the books: Sauron taught things to Celebrimbor that helped him to make the Elven rings, but Sauron wasn't present for their making and thus had no control over them as he did for the other rings.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Wow. That finale.

The reveals for Sauron and Gandalf were so ****ing well done. And that goddamn credits singing. ****!

Had a spiritual experience.

The guy who plays Gandalf is absolutely nailing the vibe. I saw that nose line coming a mile away and still loved it. Teared up like a bitch.

WHERE THE SHAAAAAAAAADOOOOWS LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MOAR!

It's not Gandalf. Gandalf didn't come until the third age. It's either Alatar or Pallando, and that is given away by the fact that they are travelling to Rhun.


Adding one of the blue wizards to the story is a great idea, as very very little was written about them, so the show's writers will have free license to make up interesting stories as they wish.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yeah, I saw the Balrog as they were closing up the mine, was just not entirely paying attention to why they were so opposed to mining the mythril.

And now that I think about it, is this the Balrog that battles Gandalf all those years later?

Probably, but Durin's Bane didn't reawaken until the third age, so I wouldn't expect a lot going on with it here.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by loochy

It's not Gandalf. Gandalf didn't come until the third age. It's either Alatar or Pallando, and that is given away by the fact that they are travelling to Rhun.


Adding one of the blue wizards to the story is a great idea, as very very little was written about them, so the show's writers will have free license to make up interesting stories as they wish.

Hopefully. But they way they hinted at it, I'm afraid they are trying to shoehorn Gandalf into this era. The Stranger used exactly the same phrase that Gandalf uses in LoTR.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by loochy

It's not Gandalf. Gandalf didn't come until the third age. It's either Alatar or Pallando, and that is given away by the fact that they are travelling to Rhun.

Adding one of the blue wizards to the story is a great idea, as very very little was written about them, so the show's writers will have free license to make up interesting stories as they wish.

yeah bullshit

[KC_Connection]

It’s definitely Gandalf. The guy is literally using the same lines from LOTR.

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Fish

Did anyone else find it odd that

Spoiler!

Galadriel found out that Halbrand was Sauron and was manipulating Celebrimbor. But yet she's like "Let's make the rings anyway!"

That seemed contradictory to me. Galadriel is basically the sole reason for all the terrible shit that happened during the third age of Middle Earth. And she had multiple opportunities to avert it.

Spoiler!

I started rewatching after the finale as I wanted to see any foreshadowing I missed regarding Halbrand. In one of the early episodes I believe it was the Elf King tells Elrond that they sent Galadriel back to the undying lands because they had foreseen that she may fan the flames of the very evil she is seeking to destroy. Which is exactly what happens. So yes Galadriel is largely responsible for all of this.

Regarding the rings I think they had to make them in order to be able to have the elves stay in Middle Earth. Plus I believe they were seduced by the power of the rings to a certain extent.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

yeah bullshit

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It’s definitely Gandalf. The guy is literally using the same lines from LOTR.

Purists are going to flip out so hard if it's him.


And it's a bit disappointing to reintroduce a character we already know vs introducing something new.


I want characters that don't already have a story written for them, like the black elf, or like Adar.