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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:04 PM   #586
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You know who else won SBs as DC: Peter Giunta and Greg Robinson.

You know what Dick Vermeil said when people criticized Greg Robinson: "He's won Super Bowls. You haven't."

How'd that work out for Dick Vermeil?
I’m not claiming that Spags is a genius and a slam dunk hire though. The only reason I’m bringing that up is because you’re completely ignoring/disregarding it and it’s 10x more impressive than anything on John ****ing Pagano’s resume.

Also, nothing any of those guys did was as impressive as stopping the GOAT QB and one of the best offense the NFL’s ever seen holding them to 14 pts.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:06 PM   #588
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One of the guys you listed wasn’t an option and the other has never been a DC in their life with no ties to Reid at all, so they pretty much weren’t either.

So yes, Pagano was essentially the best you could come up with.
So Chris Hewitt just isn't an option period? According to whom? People who say that it can't happen d/t risk?

You can also promote from college. Kyle Whittingham has gotten a lot of positive press.

But it doesn't really matter what I say. You'll continue to deflect, lie, make up shit from whole cloth and never source or support your claims because that's the kind of poster you are.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:06 PM   #589
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That's an odd take.
It's an honest question, I thought they came from Baltimore, not 100% on the time frame.
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So Chris Hewitt just isn't an option period? According to whom? People who say that it can't happen d/t risk?

You can also promote from college. Kyle Whittingham has gotten a lot of positive press.

But it doesn't really matter what I say. You'll continue to deflect, lie, make up shit from whole cloth and never source or support your claims because that's the kind of poster you are.
Do you really think Reid was going to turn his defense over to a guy with no playcalling experience?
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So Chris Hewitt just isn't an option period? According to whom? People who say that it can't happen d/t risk?

You can also promote from college. Kyle Whittingham has gotten a lot of positive press.

But it doesn't really matter what I say. You'll continue to deflect, lie, make up shit from whole cloth and never source or support your claims because that's the kind of poster you are.
Ok fine, Hewitt was an option, albeit a completely unrealistic unknown one.

The bottom line is, Andy Reid, and pretty much any offensive HC, isn’t going to hand over that side of the ball entirely to a first time DC with no connections or history whatsoever. It was never going to happen.

How is me pointing out that not a single option you’ve provided is clearly better deflecting?
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It's an honest question, I thought they came from Baltimore, not 100% on the time frame.
Well yeah, but I wouldn't call it riding Rex Ryan's coattails. In that sense he would have ridden Mike Nolan's and Nolan rode on Marvin Lewis's.

I would say it'd be more accurate to claim they were more products of amazing Defensive drafting by Ozzie.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:09 PM   #593
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So Chris Hewitt just isn't an option period? According to whom? People who say that it can't happen d/t risk?

You can also promote from college. Kyle Whittingham has gotten a lot of positive press.

But it doesn't really matter what I say. You'll continue to deflect, lie, make up shit from whole cloth and never source or support your claims because that's the kind of poster you are.
Clearly the chiefs showed that he wasn't an option. No interview with him kind of answers that question.
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Do you really think Reid was going to turn his defense over to a guy with no playcalling experience?
I'd rather have had Macdonald if we were going that route.
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Well yeah, but I wouldn't call it riding Rex Ryan's coattails. In that sense he would have ridden Mike Nolan's and Nolan rode on Marvin Lewis's.

I would say it'd be more accurate to claim they were more products of amazing Defensive drafting by Ozzie.
I mean yea they pretty much all came from a overly talented scheme and failed when they left.
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Clearly the chiefs showed that he wasn't an option. No interview with him kind of answers that question.
To be fair, it seems like Reid had his mind made up from the word go.
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I’m not claiming that Spags is a genius and a slam dunk hire though. The only reason I’m bringing that up is because you’re completely ignoring/disregarding it and it’s 10x more impressive than anything on John ****ing Pagano’s resume.

Also, nothing any of those guys did was as impressive as stopping the GOAT QB and one of the best offense the NFL’s ever seen holding them to 14 pts.
I'm not disregarding it, I'm providing context. His recent defenses have been terrible. What he did 8-10 years ago in an entirely different league with the best DL of the last 25+ years is not germane. Buddy Ryan was once the greatest defensive mind in football. How'd that work out for him in Arizona?

You seem to think that these guys constantly stay on the cutting edge. They don't. Most coaches and coordinators have a life cycle of usefulness. Their ideas become obsolete and their schemes get exploited by younger coaches who have studied their weaknesses. It's what happened to the Tampa 2, the 4-3 stack, the two-gap 3-4, the zone blitz, and on and on and on.

Steve Spagnuolo coaching an elite 4-3 defense that faced 21 personnel almost exclusively a decade ago does not mean Steve Spagnuolo can coach a modern NFL defense. Eventually, you separate the coach from the talent and they start to show how fungible they really are. What happened to Al Saunders after he left? What happened to Gunther sans DT and Neil Smith?
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And if we're talking college DC's.. Venables was the only realistic option. Still leaving you with a guy with no NFL experience coaching guys 8-10 years older than what he is used to.
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And if we're talking college DC's.. Venables was the only realistic option. Still leaving you with a guy with no NFL experience coaching guys 8-10 years older than what he is used to.
Venables is also the 2nd highest paid assistant in CFB. 1.7 million per year, I think. I wanted him too, but don't think that was ever a realistic option. He's got it ****ing made at Clemson.
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I'm not disregarding it, I'm providing context. His recent defenses have been terrible. What he did 8-10 years ago in an entirely different league with the best DL of the last 25+ years is not germane. Buddy Ryan was once the greatest defensive mind in football. How'd that work out for him in Arizona?

You seem to think that these guys constantly stay on the cutting edge. They don't. Most coaches and coordinators have a life cycle of usefulness. Their ideas become obsolete and their schemes get exploited by younger coaches who have studied their weaknesses. It's what happened to the Tampa 2, the 4-3 stack, the two-gap 3-4, the zone blitz, and on and on and on.

Steve Spagnuolo coaching an elite 4-3 defense that faced 21 personnel almost exclusively a decade ago does not mean Steve Spagnuolo can coach a modern NFL defense. Eventually, you separate the coach from the talent and they start to show how fungible they really are. What happened to Al Saunders after he left? What happened to Gunther sans DT and Neil Smith?
But Spags just had a damn good defense in 2016 with talent that was slightly above average. Any time he’s had talent he’s had a lot of success, and whe he hasn’t he’s failed. I’m not the one missing the context, it’s you.
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