Veach trying to keep Trey Smith

[RunKC]

Have said many times that I feared this would happen

"Kansas City is making it a priority to try to keep Trey Smith.

... long term deal. Making every effort."@DMRussini https://t.co/webgjLp2Sq

— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) February 25, 2025

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

He’s drafted a C that is on pace to be one of the best Cs of all-time and a very good guard.

“He can’t draft OT” would be more accurate, although that’s hard to when you’re picking 32 every year

Exactly. I disagree with that narrative too, but at least there's some logic to it.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

So basically he’s wasting picks drafting OL past the second round is what you’re saying? Why can’t Morris or any of the 5 players (4 because Kinnard was never in consideration) he’s drafted make the lineup? Other teams seem to hit on OL beyond round 2.

A lot of wasted round 1-3 picks in recent years, not just OL. Not having FAU #1 pick, Kingsley a #2, Skyy a #2, on the field in the Superbowl really cost us. Because the Chiefs draft so late EVERY YEAR it is critical we hit on picks in rounds 1-3. Alaric Jackson for the Rams, who dominated the same Eagles defense line who demolished us, was an undrafted free agent. The talent is out there you just have to be super high IQ about it and Veach has a massive blind spot when evaluating the tackle position thru acquisition by whatever means (draft, FA,). He also massively overpaid Taylor who was supposed to be the LT of the future, not stay at RT.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The problem is that other than the 2 late round rookies that you're disingenuously counting, the majority of those investments have been to find a franchise LT, and no, franchise LTs are rarely found outside of the 2nd round. If Morris can even be a swing T, that would be a great pick. That's where expectations need to be for a late 3rd.

This team has zero issues finding starting IOL on day 3. Just look at Trey Smith and Allegreti for recent examples that easily disprove your BS narrative about the entire OL. Again, the issue has been OT, no need to paint an entire narrative about the OL.

This is why I wouldn't pay Smith.

Honestly, I wouldn't go about very far with Thuney, but he's a HOF all timer so that's a bit differen.t

[O.city]

It's not necessarily Kingsley that's hurting you now. Year 1 for a project LT happens like that.
It's the Sky Moore and FAU picks that start hurting years later.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

A lot of wasted round 1-3 picks in recent years, not just OL. Not having FAU #1 pick, Kingsley a #2, Skyy a #2, on the field in the Superbowl really cost us. Because the Chiefs draft so late EVERY YEAR it is critical we hit on picks in rounds 1-3. Alaric Jackson for the Rams, who dominated the same Eagles defense line who demolished us, was an undrafted free agent. The talent is out there you just have to be super high IQ about it and Veach has a massive blind spot when evaluating the tackle position thru acquisition by whatever means (draft, FA,). He also massively overpaid Taylor who was supposed to be the LT of the future, not stay at RT.

By "a lot of", you really mean "they aren't batting a 1000"

It's absolutely hilarious how clueless most of you are when it comes to the draft. It must be so easy to just sit back and bitch that every late 1st/2nd round pick isn't a HR.

I mean, the fact that you bring up Skyy Moore who was the one blemish on the best draft in franchise history just proves my point.

News flash:

The Chiefs draft as well as any team in the NFL, despite having by far the worst draft position year after year.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The problem is that other than the 2 late round rookies that you're disingenuously counting, the majority of those investments have been to find a franchise LT, and no, franchise LTs are rarely found outside of the 2nd round. If Morris can even be a swing T, that would be a great pick. That's where expectations need to be for a late 3rd.

This team has zero issues finding starting IOL on day 3. Just look at Trey Smith and Allegreti for recent examples that easily disprove your BS narrative about the entire OL. Again, the issue has been OT, no need to paint an entire narrative about the OL.

Going all the way back to Alegretti? I’m going back 3 drafts and not one of those 5 can take a RG spot over a guy who’s regressed? Seems to disprove what you’re saying.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Going all the way back to Alegretti? I’m going back 3 drafts and not one of those 5 can take a RG spot over a guy who’s regressed? Seems to disprove what you’re saying.

"All the way back"?

Allegretti was drafted one year before Creed. You can count 2 rookies that were drafted on day 3, but I can't count Allegretti? Totally disingenuous dude, but sure!

Who the **** said that none of the guys on the Chiefs roster can replace Smith? That's all in your head based on this very unreliable report.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Going all the way back to Alegretti? I’m going back 3 drafts and not one of those 5 can take a RG spot over a guy who’s regressed? Seems to disprove what you’re saying.

Wait, what? You wanted them to **** around with RG as well while LT was a revolving door all off season?

[Sassy Squatch]

Ooh, you're talking about something that hasn't even happened yet

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by staylor26

By "a lot of", you really mean "they aren't batting a 1000"

It's absolutely hilarious how clueless most of you are when it comes to the draft. It must be so easy to just sit back and bitch that every late 1st/2nd round pick isn't a HR.

I mean, the fact that you bring up Skyy Moore who was the one blemish on the best draft in franchise history just proves my point.

News flash:

The Chiefs draft as well as any team in the NFL, despite having by far the worst draft position year after year.

So we should expect from the last 2 drafts just having 3 starters, and 2 rotation players? I’ll give a pass to Wiley cuz he got injured. 14 players drafted, 3 starters, and 2 spot players?

[O.city]

This is why you should trade your first round picks that come at the end of the round for good players.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

So we should expect from the last 2 drafts just having 3 starters, and 2 rotation players? I’ll give a pass to Wiley cuz he got injured. 14 players drafted, 3 starters, and 2 spot players?

Do you see how we've gone from "Veach can't draft OTs" to "Veach can't draft OL" and now it seems like you jsut are trying to say "Veach can't draft".

Again, the Chiefs are one of the best drafting teams the last several years, and that's despite having it harder than any other team. If that's not good enough for you, your expectations are the problem.

I mean, the fact that you're complaining about last year's draft when Worthy was ****ing fantastic, Kingsley looks like he can at least start at G, and Hicks looked like a stud speaks volumes. The problem here is 100% YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

[ThrobProng]

I would let him walk even if LT wasn't an issue. He's mediocre at best in pass protection. An adequate replacement is likely on the roster already. With LT being an issue, buh-bye for sure.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

If it's true, the reports that Kingsley is moving to G full time are absolute bullshit. Granted, they always seemed a bit stupid but this should put the nail in the coffin.

He played LG in the Denver game and was the backup LG in the SB. Very possible that if Trey is paid that Thuney will be here in 2025 and then Kingsley takes over in 2026.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Dante84

This reads to me like the Chiefs are leaking for PR; so they can say they tried when he of course prices himself out.

That makes the most sense....because there is NO way Smith is coming back here for what we can afford.