Chiefs Does anyone else find it a bit concerning - Page 4

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 10:23 AM

That in multiple Super Bowls the Chiefs seem to come out extremely flat? They seem to really struggle to match the other teams energy level, especially early in these games. Last night they looked like they literally had no hype at all, like what is that?

RedRaider56 · 02-10-2025, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.

Kelce's drop on the first drive set the tone for the game. Couple that with poor field position, horrendous game plan and crap OL play and it was a recipe for disaster by Mahomes. He was pressing and dug the hole deeper and deeper with his two INTs

ThaVirus · 02-10-2025, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.

Most QBs struggle when facing that sort of pressure.

The Giants harassed Brady like that in his best year with his best team back in 2007. They ended up scoring 21 points less than their season average.

Being able to get consistent pressure with four linemen is like a cheat code.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 02-10-2025, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii

Weren't we already 3 out of 4 good or maybe I've missed count and it is 3 out of 5 good?

With our SB last year it was 3 out 5, It's a second or third tier dynasty behind the teams that won three out four or four out of six. We likely won't get another shot at the threepeat but not all is lost.

Next year we can join the three out of 4 fraternity with the closest attempt to a threepeat ever in our hat. It still puts us over the top but we have to win or start from scratch. The gap is much closer.

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 11:22 AM

No idea if anyone will agree with me on this but also..

Blowout or not, when a dude double punches your QB in the face, has a history of being a total piece of shit...I have no idea why the Chiefs didn't just stand him up and cut him. At some point you have to send a message of what will and will not be tolerated. Taking a complete cheapshot at the QB's head should have you watching your knees.

Valiant · 02-10-2025, 11:25 AM

Problem all season and we could not overcome it this year in the last game.

The line is bad. Tag and trade trey.

They used the same blueprint as Tampa. Pressure without blitzing. Allowed them to swallow up our players.

Our defense did great with what they had to work with and being on the field nonstop. They shit down Barkley running.

Offense did not keep their part up. After 10 zero. They should have started moving the pocket. I don't like nagy at all. He is bland. Uninspired.

Need to definitely fire oline coach. Bring in a zone scheme or someone to make them mean. They just don't seem bothered when they get their assessment kicked and get patrick killed.

Pat also needs to hone in on his decisions. Two direct passes got intercepted because he will not arc a pass unless it is a bomb.

Fumble not his fault.

Nirvana58 · 02-10-2025, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Soooo many things wrong with this statement.

First, only 4 teams in the regular season vs the eagles put up more than 20 points against them..

Second, NFC West is a DOG division, so to state how the "Rams" were able to put up over 20 like its nothing is another stupid statement.

Third, everyone knows the Oline needs to be addressed.

Fourth, Worth is a DOG now because he put up numbers during garbage time, and got a TD against the back ups? Shitttttttt.....

Fifth, Rice is coming back from an ACL, the majority of players coming back from these types of injurys NEVER have a good to great season, and are on record saying they don't feel the same the first year back, but ACTIVE players say otherwise to hype their salary/agents up.

Rice is not coming back from an ACL injury

ThyKingdomCome15 · 02-10-2025, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

No idea if anyone will agree with me on this but also..

Blowout or not, when a dude double punches your QB in the face, has a history of being a total piece of shit...I have no idea why the Chiefs didn't just stand him up and cut him. At some point you have to send a message of what will and will not be tolerated. Taking a complete cheapshot at the QB's head should have you watching your knees.

We weren't getting that call with the game being over and the refs hearing the chatter.

O.city · 02-10-2025, 11:38 AM

Moving the pocket isn't some panacea, it cuts the field in half.

When you are getting your ass kicked up front like that, there's just not much you can do.

You can't play your LG at LT and throw in a journey man LG and hope to beat elite fronts.

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

We weren't getting that call with the game being over and the refs hearing the chatter.

I don't care if you get a call or not, the fact that he did that and the team didn't even respond is ridiculous. That is your franchise player and that dude jacked him in the head on a complete cheap shot.

Katie · 02-10-2025, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

No idea if anyone will agree with me on this but also..

Blowout or not, when a dude double punches your QB in the face, has a history of being a total piece of shit...I have no idea why the Chiefs didn't just stand him up and cut him. At some point you have to send a message of what will and will not be tolerated. Taking a complete cheapshot at the QB's head should have you watching your knees.

Who are you talking about?

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie

Who are you talking about?

Remember when Jalen Carter killed someone… https://t.co/ElhCJGmf0j
— Sterling Bennett (@49ers_Access) February 10, 2025

The fact that this happened and didn't result in a fight or some type of message block annoys the **** out of me.

Hoover · 02-10-2025, 11:55 AM

Yeah, I think this entire game was the result of our offensive line getting their ass whooped from play one. Had to show anything when you are getting your teeth knocked in.

Sassy Squatch · 02-10-2025, 11:56 AM

Per Next Gen Stats, Mahomes had negative 1.36 EPA per drop back. If you look at the every NFL game that has happened in the past five years, it was the tenth worst first half any quarterback has had.

seamonster · 02-10-2025, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Soooo many things wrong with this statement.

First, only 4 teams in the regular season vs the eagles put up more than 20 points against them..

Second, NFC West is a DOG division, so to state how the "Rams" were able to put up over 20 like its nothing is another stupid statement.

Third, everyone knows the Oline needs to be addressed.

Fourth, Worth is a DOG now because he put up numbers during garbage time, and got a TD against the back ups? Shitttttttt.....

Fifth, Rice is coming back from an ACL, the majority of players coming back from these types of injurys NEVER have a good to great season, and are on record saying they don't feel the same the first year back, but ACTIVE players say otherwise to hype their salary/agents up.

Rice is an X. He's playing the line of scrimmage. He's a pierre garcon\puca chain mover and he's built like a fullback. Nobody's asking him to be Rocket ****ing Ishmael. And the last I checked he didn't tear an ACL (lol). And as far as the Eagles defense...They got worked by a rookie QB and a team with no running game an even worse offensive line than the Chiefs (staring a rookie at left tackle)... in a game that had ramifications. And the NFC West? The ****ing Cardinals and a crippled washed up 49ers team? GTFO. Rams have an even worse running game than the Chiefs in 2024 and that's supposed to be their bread and butter. Yet they carved the Eagles and Fangio up because the Eagles have mediocre safeties and some suspect linebackers (same guy that mahomes torched against the 49ers last year in the SB is the Eagles starting line backer). You move Thuney to the interior and get an average LT (Brandon Coleman for example) and you can beat the Eagles. They're not the ****ing 91 Redskins.

Red Dawg · 02-10-2025, 12:02 PM

Media hate against us is concerning. Houston and Bills coaching and players called out the NFL like they were making us win and then just like that we get our asses kicked and are on the wrong end of damn near every call.

You could feel it was over from the start.

02-10-2025, 10:23 AM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	Does anyone else find it a bit concerning That in multiple Super Bowls the Chiefs seem to come out extremely flat? They seem to really struggle to match the other teams energy level, especially early in these games. Last night they looked like they literally had no hype at all, like what is that?
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02-10-2025, 11:22 AM	#49
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	No idea if anyone will agree with me on this but also.. Blowout or not, when a dude double punches your QB in the face, has a history of being a total piece of shit...I have no idea why the Chiefs didn't just stand him up and cut him. At some point you have to send a message of what will and will not be tolerated. Taking a complete cheapshot at the QB's head should have you watching your knees.
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02-10-2025, 11:25 AM	#50
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4572380	Problem all season and we could not overcome it this year in the last game. The line is bad. Tag and trade trey. They used the same blueprint as Tampa. Pressure without blitzing. Allowed them to swallow up our players. Our defense did great with what they had to work with and being on the field nonstop. They shit down Barkley running. Offense did not keep their part up. After 10 zero. They should have started moving the pocket. I don't like nagy at all. He is bland. Uninspired. Need to definitely fire oline coach. Bring in a zone scheme or someone to make them mean. They just don't seem bothered when they get their assessment kicked and get patrick killed. Pat also needs to hone in on his decisions. Two direct passes got intercepted because he will not arc a pass unless it is a bomb. Fumble not his fault.
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02-10-2025, 11:38 AM	#53
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-505936	Moving the pocket isn't some panacea, it cuts the field in half. When you are getting your ass kicked up front like that, there's just not much you can do. You can't play your LG at LT and throw in a journey man LG and hope to beat elite fronts.
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02-10-2025, 11:55 AM	#57
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1911821	Yeah, I think this entire game was the result of our offensive line getting their ass whooped from play one. Had to show anything when you are getting your teeth knocked in.
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02-10-2025, 11:56 AM	#58
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1190345	Per Next Gen Stats, Mahomes had negative 1.36 EPA per drop back. If you look at the every NFL game that has happened in the past five years, it was the tenth worst first half any quarterback has had.
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02-10-2025, 12:02 PM	#60
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1492858	Media hate against us is concerning. Houston and Bills coaching and players called out the NFL like they were making us win and then just like that we get our asses kicked and are on the wrong end of damn near every call. You could feel it was over from the start. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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