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Old 05-03-2022, 08:08 PM  
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How ****ed is the Southwest?

I'm sure most people heard about the dead dude found in a barrel in Lake Mead. This underscores the crazy drought conditions that have been plaguing the southwest since 2000 or so. Now, **** appears to be getting real real.

Colorado River Reservoirs Are So Low, Government Will Delay Releases
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/c...r-drought.html

Groundbreaking Law Requires Businesses Replace Decorative Grass
https://www.nevadabusiness.com/2022/...orative-grass/

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Any CP folks actively dealing with this situation?
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Old 05-04-2022, 09:16 AM   #46
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Why can’t they just dump it back into the massive ocean?
Purportedly creates dead zones in the ocean.
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Old 05-04-2022, 10:48 AM   #47
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It's not so much about water anymore, it is about electric power. Do you want to drink or keep the lights on?

I guess leaving Flagstaff in 1999 was a good move.
I would say unless you owned a Flagstaff house in 1999, because it's probably worth several times more now... but, I'm sure Austin is about the same or even crazier.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:11 AM   #48
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Purportedly creates dead zones in the ocean.
Seems like they could dump it in the desert. Or... use it. It's not like salt isn't useful.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:14 AM   #49
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Seems like they could dump it in the desert. Or... use it. It's not like salt isn't useful.
If it's the Southwest, put it on nacho chips. Problem solved.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:22 AM   #50
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:38 AM   #51
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Can't build desalinization plants. They are environmentally unfriendly.

At least that is the answer I've gotten before on the topic. Apparently the salt is a nasty thing to dispose of.
Desalinization plants are economical as far as residents taking showers. But that, contrary to the hype, has never been the issue.

It takes over a gallon of water, depending on which web site you look at, to grow a single almond. Not one pound. Not one can.

One freaking almond.

You can't economically use desal for agriculture.
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Old 05-04-2022, 12:03 PM   #52
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It takes over a gallon of water, depending on which web site you look at, to grow a single almond. Not one pound. Not one can.

One freaking almond.
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Wow. If true, that seems absurdly wasteful.
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Old 05-04-2022, 01:02 PM   #53
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Old 05-04-2022, 01:04 PM   #54
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Desalinization plants are economical as far as residents taking showers. But that, contrary to the hype, has never been the issue.

It takes over a gallon of water, depending on which web site you look at, to grow a single almond. Not one pound. Not one can.

One freaking almond.

You can't economically use desal for agriculture.
That's ridiculous. I think I've heard that before, but at what point do we accept that almond's aren't a good use of resources and move to better crops?
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Old 05-04-2022, 01:10 PM   #55
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Desalinization plants are economical as far as residents taking showers. But that, contrary to the hype, has never been the issue.

It takes over a gallon of water, depending on which web site you look at, to grow a single almond. Not one pound. Not one can.

One freaking almond.

You can't economically use desal for agriculture.
Israeli olive and sesame farmers would beg to differ

Yeah, almonds come from seriously thirsty trees. Weed is a seriously thirsty plant. They will need multiple desal plants. Each will require way more power than the CA grid can support, so that means new power plants as well. Ain't gonna happen.
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I had a dairy farm by my house until maybe a year ago. A milking cow drinks 30-50 gallons per day. It is probably worse than that due to how damn hot it is.

10 gallons of milk needs 50 gallons of water
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Israeli olive and sesame farmers would beg to differ

Yeah, almonds come from seriously thirsty trees. Weed is a seriously thirsty plant. They will need multiple desal plants. Each will require way more power than the CA grid can support, so that means new power plants as well. Ain't gonna happen.
Nuclear power plants on the moon. It's going to happen eventually.
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Old 05-04-2022, 01:35 PM   #58
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Desalinization plants are economical as far as residents taking showers. But that, contrary to the hype, has never been the issue.

It takes over a gallon of water, depending on which web site you look at, to grow a single almond. Not one pound. Not one can.

One freaking almond.

You can't economically use desal for agriculture.
I've seen that stat a lot and it kind of seems like a conspiracy from the dairy industry who hates nut milk just to call out almonds.. I mean, I did a quick Google and saw a graphic that it takes a 3rd of a gallon to produce one grape, a few gallons per walnut, a few gallons for a head of lettuce that's like 5 calories.

It makes me wonder how many gallons I use to water my peach tree, because it's a lot and wouldn't be negligible per peach.

So leave my almond milk alone!
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I've seen that stat a lot and it kind of seems like a conspiracy from the dairy industry who hates nut milk just to call out almonds.. I mean, I did a quick Google and saw a graphic that it takes a 3rd of a gallon to produce one grape, a few gallons per walnut, a few gallons for a head of lettuce that's like 5 calories.

It makes me wonder how many gallons I use to water my peach tree, because it's a lot and wouldn't be negligible per peach.

So leave my almond milk alone!
It sounds like Waldorf salads are destroying the world.

I wonder how much water a hamburger requires.
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