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Old 05-15-2019, 01:07 PM  
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Who wins a Super Bowl first?
There's been a lot of hype about the Browns this off-season. (I'm personally not buying in until I see if Mayfield is the real deal)

Mayfield's growth will obviously play a huge role in how far the Browns can go, but they also have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball.

So my question is this - Who wins a Super Bowl first? The Chiefs. Or the Browns?
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:36 PM   #46
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once Mahomes has been signed to his deal, that changes everything. at that point, I'll have to take another assessment as will everyone else. but for now, it's the right way to do things. And even I have to admit that given what we had pick wise going into the draft, Veach did a killer job.
This draft and next years are crucial...if you dont start landing great players, you can end up with a Packer's type situation with Mahomes...or even the pre-Ballard Colts. Seahawks too...they has 1-2 great drafts and rode it.. but never really restocked the roster.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:42 PM   #47
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Chris Ballard. He's pretty good. I'm not calling him bad or even mediocre. He's a solid, damn good GM.

Top 3? Why? Christ... the Colts are pretty close to being legit challengers to the Chiefs and the Patriots in the AFC all while their QB's mega contract now has some age on it and is turning into somewhat of a bargain.
We should be thankful he's financially conservative...I thought for sure they would would go after Bell or Brown. They could have afforded both and traded up for Hockenson...then gone all defense.

That's a frightening thought....
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:47 PM   #48
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We should be thankful he's financially conservative...I thought for sure they would would go after Bell or Brown. They could have afforded both and traded up for Hockenson...then gone all defense.

That's a frightening thought....
Yep, anytime Ballard wants to leave fruit on the tree I'm all good with that. Praise his cheap cheap ass!
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:14 PM   #49
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What?

He helped turn around the 2-14 Chiefs to an 11-5 team in one season. That's an NFL record.
Andy Reid had far more to do with that than you realize. Andy has 3 losing seasons as a HC since 1999.

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He turned the Browns around from 0-16 to 7-8-1. They lost 5 games by 3 or less points points..three of those in OT...and another by 4 points. They had one tie. If just half of those swing the other way...they are 11-5 and in the play-offs in his first year.
Dorsey was lucky a QB like Mayfield was available. Of course he looks good compared to horrific Cleveland historically enept trash. You think Andy wouldn’t turn them around?

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Dorsey did nothing but run this franchise down every year after he got here. Things got worse and worse the longer he was here.

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Did I mention he drafted BOTH Mayfield and Mahomes...and Kelce, Hill, Hunt, Peters, C. Jones...and just landed OBJ?
It’s been confirmed that Veach found Mahomes. Do you really think Dorsey found ALL of those players?

You don’t think the guy that drafted and developed DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, LeSean McCoy, Jason Kelce and Brent Celek in Philly without Dorsey had no part in drafting our offensive studs?

Did you not read that Andy watched Kareem Hunt in his office on his tv in season when he was forming gameplans?
Do you not realize that Andy not only drafted and coached Travis Kelce’s brother, but his own goddamn son was at Temple in the same conference as as Kelce and played against them?

Do you just ignore facts and blow Dorsey continuously? I mean shit dude why do you think 90% of our best players drafted in the Reid era were an offense? Do you use your brain and think critically?
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:05 AM   #50
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Do you just ignore facts and blow Dorsey continuously?
I think you just need to shut up...Did you forget that Dorsey didn't want to re-sign Berry? Imagine how different last season would have been..if Chunt/Andy had just let him do his job. He also got rid of Maclin...who flamed out the very next year.

Dorsey orchestrated the Mahomes trade...one in which he would have been gone the very next pick to NO...sorry if I dont see Veach having that same type of savvy/intuition.

Seems like you want to give everyone credit but Dorsey...yet he walks in and turns around a 0-16, perennially loser into a media darling in one season.

See a pattern..obviously you dont or you wouldnt make such a stupid post.
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Old 05-16-2019, 12:38 AM   #51
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I think you just need to shut up...Did you forget that Dorsey didn't want to re-sign Berry? Imagine how different last season would have been..if Chunt/Andy had just let him do his job. He also got rid of Maclin...who flamed out the very next year.

Dorsey orchestrated the Mahomes trade...one in which he would have been gone the very next pick to NO...sorry if I dont see Veach having that same type of savvy/intuition.

Seems like you want to give everyone credit but Dorsey...yet he walks in and turns around a 0-16, perennially loser into a media darling in one season.

See a pattern..obviously you dont or you wouldnt make such a stupid post.
I'm curious to see what their salary cap looks like in a few years.
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Chiefs already have one you dope.
This thread is ovah.
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The Chiefs. Dorsey will have them competitive for the next three years, then they will be in cap hell due to his foolish decisions.
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More like Hall of Stupidity. Yikes!

Some really awful takes in this thread . . . . . .
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I understand - but that Championship was won 20 something years before I was born.

I'm thinking of maybe something in the near future? Maybe 2020 or so?
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it doesn't take a genius to figure out mahomes was on a better team/organization, and that he would be in line for a title first.
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it doesn't take a genius to figure out mahomes was on a better team/organization, and that he would be in line for a title first.
We’re better in large part because of Mahomes

Put Patty on the Browns and you’d have a playoff team in Cleveland. Mahomes+Landry, OBJ, Chubb, and Hunt would be a top 12 NFL team
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We’re better in large part because of Mahomes

Put Patty on the Browns and you’d have a playoff team in Cleveland. Mahomes+Landry, OBJ, Chubb, and Hunt would be a top 12 NFL team
instead they drafted a thug for a defensive lineman
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