Chiefs Overthecap's comp picks projection - Page 4

RunKC · 01-07-2017, 01:29 PM

Just released today. Here's what we're projected:

Rd 3--rewarded for Sean Smith
Rd 5--rewarded for Chase Daniel
Rd 6--rewarded for Donald Stephenson

Rd 6--rewarded for TyVonn Branch

http://overthecap.com/projecting-201...y-draft-picks/

So all in all, looks like we have 11 picks:

1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7

Direckshun · 01-07-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Dadi injury is huge for sure. Thankfully, this draft is "supposedly" filled with edge rushers so the Chiefs should be able to nab a guy, even without moving up (although I'd have no problem with it).

Unfortunately, it's weak across the board at offensive line, which sucks because the Chiefs could definitely upgrade at guard, even if it's backup players that project as starters at some point.

Man, teams are going to be reaching for OL all over this draft, too.

Fortunately, the Chiefs line is at least capable, though not exceptional. And the top 8 OL we have on our roster are all under contract for 2017.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-07-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unfortunately, it's weak across the board at offensive line, which sucks because the Chiefs could definitely upgrade at guard, even if it's backup players that project as starters at some point.

Our entire OL room is under contract through next year, I believe. Great luxury that the Chiefs haven't had in years.

They have started to gel pretty well the last few weeks because they've been able to start the same 5 for like 9 games in a row, thankfully. Ehinger looked like a legit starter with PB potential.

One of those deals where I trust the FO to continually find competent options at guard on rookie deals.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Too early to say but as far as immediate starter holes, how many are we really going to have this offseason?

Poe is probably gone, but even then, you still have Jones, Howard, and Bailey.

Dorsey has always been BPA I think, but in this year's case he may have every reason to use that strategy.

I think Poe gets an extension and they resign Berry.

Poe isn't going anywhere, especially for the money that some people have believed he'll be offered. He's not a Pro Bowler or an All Pro.

He's not getting $15 million a year and will be lucky to get $10.

Direckshun · 01-07-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Too early to say but as far as immediate starter holes, how many are we really going to have this offseason?

Poe is probably gone, but even then, you still have Jones, Howard, and Bailey.

Dorsey has always been BPA I think, but in this year's case he may have every reason to use that strategy.

I still don't think Poe is gone. Even if he is, we just plug Howard in.

The only starting hole we'll have is ILB, which at the very least DJ will return by November or December.

You could argue we have a hole at CB if you're nervous about Mitchell's play carrying over into 2017. Which I am.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Our entire OL room is under contract through next year, I believe. Great luxury that the Chiefs haven't had in years.

They have started to gel pretty well the last few weeks because they've been able to start the same 5 for like 9 games in a row, thankfully. Ehinger looked like a legit starter with PB potential.

One of those deals where I trust the FO to continually find competent options at guard on rookie deals.

The issue with Ehinger, IMO, is that he tore his ACL in October.

As we've seen with Houston and Charles, it's taking quite a while longer for guys to get healthy, so I'm not even sure he's available to play next year.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-07-2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Poe gets an extension and they resign Berry.

Poe isn't going anywhere, especially for the money that some people have believed he'll be offered. He's not a Pro Bowler or an All Pro.

He's not getting $15 million a year and will be lucky to get $10.

One thing we have going for us there is Poe LOVES Reid and he is really close with a lot of his teammates it would seem. He might be willing to take a little less to stay.

I have no clue what his market value would be, but if the Chiefs win the SB it is probably going to be pretty rich.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2017, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You could argue we have a hole at CB if you're nervous about Mitchell's play carrying over into 2017. Which I am.

That's because you're ignoring his technique and success and basing it on a completely different player, which is dumb as ****.

I'm completely fine if the Chiefs draft a Day 2 or Day 3 CB and as a matter of fact, I think they should.

But they shouldn't do it because "Oh, Mitchell might turn into a pumpkin like Marcus Cooper did".

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-07-2017, 02:28 PM

According to OTC, a simple void of Nick Foles' and Jamaal Charles' contracts gives the Chiefs around $22 million in cap room, plus whatever they roll over from this year.

Ample room indeed to keep Berry and Poe with low first year hits..

RunKC · 01-07-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Dadi injury is huge for sure. Thankfully, this draft is "supposedly" filled with edge rushers so the Chiefs should be able to nab a guy, even without moving up (although I'd have no problem with it).

Unfortunately, it's weak across the board at offensive line, which sucks because the Chiefs could definitely upgrade at guard, even if it's backup players that project as starters at some point.

I've read that OLB and CB are stacked with talent at the top of the draft. If a QB isn't on their radar this year, I would have no issue drafting those positions in the first 2 rds.

Apparently this is one of the weakest OL classes in years from what I've read, which really does suck bc I don't trust that Parker Ehinger's knee will hold up next year after the setbacks we've had this year.

But I think the biggest "hole" on this team, and I would call it the biggest need as well, is OLB. We always have injuries there so it's a top need.

**DaFace** · 01-07-2017, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

One thing we have going for us there is Poe LOVES Reid and he is really close with a lot of his teammates it would seem. He might be willing to take a little less to stay.

I have no clue what his market value would be, but if the Chiefs win the SB it is probably going to be pretty rich.

I can't imagine many other coaches would let him throw a pass, that's for sure.

Direckshun · 01-07-2017, 02:31 PM

The one thing I'll say (among the many things I've already said) is that having 10 picks, and four in the first three rounds, means we can almost completely ignore free agency and just focus on our own guys.

If we could bring in Tyrod Taylor or even scoop up Trevor Siemian if the Broncos were to cut him for some reason for a #2 QB, I'd take that. Maybe.

Other than that, we can pretty much take pennies-on-the-dollar free agent flyers and leave our FA activity at that.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-07-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I've read that OLB and CB are stacked with talent at the top of the draft. If a QB isn't on their radar this year, I would have no issue drafting those positions in the first 2 rds.

Apparently this is one of the weakest OL classes in years from what I've read, which really does suck bc I don't trust that Parker Ehinger's knee will hold up next year after the setbacks we've had this year.

I want Dorsey to draft BPA, regardless of position, and I think that's what they do...

It showed this year with the Chris Jones pick. No one thought we 'needed' a D-Lineman whatsoever, but a couple injuries happen and here we are. Without Jones, I don't know where we would be right now as he is clearly the best interior rusher we've got.

BPA, 100%. Whether its QB, DL, LB, DB, WR, whatever.

RunKC · 01-07-2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It showed this year with the Chris Jones pick. No one thought we 'needed' a D-Lineman whatsoever.

This is 100% false.

Dane knew, I knew, everyone in the draft forum knew. Hell even Terez Paylor knew. He was mocking 3 or 4 DL to us (including Jones) for weeks.

Dorsey's trend was to draft for "future need". This year it looks like it's one of the following:

-DL: assuming Poe is franchised. Howard will be in a contract year next season.
-QB: Alex's contract runs out after 2018.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-07-2017, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This is 100% false.

Dane knew, I knew, everyone in the draft forum knew. Hell even Terez Paylor knew. He was mocking 3 or 4 DL to us (including Jones) for weeks.

Dorsey's trend was to draft for "future need". This year it looks like it's one of the following:

-DL: assuming Poe is franchised. Howard will be in a contract year next season.
-QB: Alex's contract runs out after 2018.

I should clarify, I knew we did, because of Poe's contract, but I don't think anyone expected to draft a starting caliber, or elite potential player at the DL position.

EDIT: I fully expect KC to draft a QB this year, but I think it could be anywhere between round 1-5, so who knows.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

or even scoop up Trevor Siemian if the Broncos were to cut him for some reason for a #2 QB, I'd take that. Maybe.

Why in the world would the Broncos cut their best QB in 2016, especially when he's dirt cheap?

Even though that's complete lunacy, there would be a huge market for him, especially as a starter in place like Los Angeles, Buffalo, NY, etc. and so on.

Good ****ing grief, man.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1380389	Overthecap's comp picks projection Just released today. Here's what we're projected: Rd 3--rewarded for Sean Smith Rd 5--rewarded for Chase Daniel Rd 6--rewarded for Donald Stephenson Rd 6--rewarded for TyVonn Branch http://overthecap.com/projecting-201...y-draft-picks/ So all in all, looks like we have 11 picks: 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2153447	The one thing I'll say (among the many things I've already said) is that having 10 picks, and four in the first three rounds, means we can almost completely ignore free agency and just focus on our own guys. If we could bring in Tyrod Taylor or even scoop up Trevor Siemian if the Broncos were to cut him for some reason for a #2 QB, I'd take that. Maybe. Other than that, we can pretty much take pennies-on-the-dollar free agent flyers and leave our FA activity at that.
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