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chiefscafan · 08:56 AM

I haven't posted in a while but I just wanted to tell you what I saw yesterday. I know there is work to be done but this is what I think so far.

I rewatched the game this morning. Our Offensive line is gonna be amazing the biggest addition as I said when we signed him was the RT Schwartz. Alex and Foles had more time to go through the progressions not running around for their lives.

The kicker Santos is coming into his own. He kicked a 58 yarder with ease. Him with colquit and hill and DAT or Knile makes our special teams dangerous.

I think the O is gonna be light years better our RB depth is crazy good. The WRs are way better. It's not gonna be just kelcie, Charles, and Macklin anymore. This O has many weapons and can attack you many ways.

The addition of Foles was very smart . Unfortunately the young Qbs aren't ready yet it will be interesting to see which one they trade or cut and which ones they keep.

Yes the D is gonna struggle at first with the young CBs but they are all talented and by mid season this D is gonna be scary. The addition of Chris Jones is looking like we got the steal of the draft. In fact this entire draft looks like one of Dorsey's best. Especially as I said at the time like the additions of the CB DJ White and LB Dadi Nicholas both raw but extremely talented.

This is the most complete Chiefs team I've seen in years. Yes there are questions right now what team doesn't have them at this time of the year. However look at Dorsey he's showing to be a great GM. Remember he took over a 2-14 team that was gutted with no real depth and an inept O. To turn around with three winning seasons and two playoff appearances. Even ending the playoff winning draught.

I know I'll probably be blasted for these comments saying I have rose colored glasses on but I have faith in this team and with the right breaks this is a championship caliber team. How many times have really been able to say that?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 08-16-2016, 07:50 AM

Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO.

Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.

**HemiEd** · 08-16-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO.

Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.

Well said, we can only hope that happens.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

At the moment I don't see the defense being that great. You are not a great defense in this league of routine 4000 yard passers if you can't rush the passer. I don't see where it is coming from.

As for the offense--yeah it looks improved, but although Reid is a great schemer, his play-calling is weird. Kelce needs to be a much bigger focus this season than he has been.

Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 08-16-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Do some people on CP not understand that you can get a pass rush from your interior also?

Hali/Ford and any combination of Poe/Jones/Bailey/Howard is still better than what most teams have.

People are completely overreacting about Ford's pass rush. All the negative reports and the game have been about run defense. He got to get after it once in that game, and he even created pressure when he did.

I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.

staylor26 · 08-16-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I'm not concerned about Ford's pass rush, personally.

I'm concerned about his discipline, or lack thereof, on the edge against the run.

That's something so underappreciated about Houston and Hali. Yes, they are elite edge rushers and that's why they make all the $$$. But, they also create more pass rush opportunities by shutting down the run and screen game. They also happen to be far better than Dee in pass coverage, too.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but when I watch Ford I see a 4-3 DE 100%. He's stiff and slow in space. Not sure he can ever be more than a situational guy for us.

That's because you're evaluating him at SOLB. You can say all of those thugs about Hali as well, especially before his transition to 3/4 OLB. He'd be fine at WOLB with Houston on the other side.

**Rausch** · 08-17-2016, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

We are DEEEEEEEEP at WR now.

This is no longer a concern...

**HemiEd** · 08-17-2016, 06:49 AM

I am starting to have a lot of confidence in this management team.

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rico · 08-17-2016, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

3. WR We have Rod Streater dude is a baller.

Yeah, I didn't realize Streater was such a good pickup. Pretty pumped up about that guy.

**Rausch** · 08-17-2016, 07:09 AM

Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

milkman · 08-17-2016, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

Seriously?

Danguardace · 08-17-2016, 07:49 AM

Offense should take 2 steps forward; O-line, WR and even RB upgraded.

Defense will take a step back until everyone is healthy and when secondary is settled.

**jjchieffan** · 08-17-2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Depth this year was clearly a huge concern.

I was worried about ILB, WR, and S going in to the draft and at this point I think the cuts will hurt at ILB and WR.

Quietly we've loaded both positions.

I'm still not a fan of Dorsey-drafts but from that point to week 1 he's brilliant...

How can you not be a fan of Dorsey drafts? Especially after this draft. He has drafted some real talent and built incredible depth on this team mostly through the draft. Peters was DROY, LDT is starting at guard, Morris starting at center, Ehinger at guard. Just to scratch the surface. He has had some of the best drafts for KC in the last 25+ years. In fact, I would challenge you to show me anyone in the league that has drafted better in the last 4 years( other than Seattle of course, lol)

Buckweath · 08-17-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

How can you not be a fan of Dorsey drafts? Especially after this draft. He has drafted some real talent and built incredible depth on this team mostly through the draft. Peters was DROY, LDT is starting at guard, Morris starting at center, Ehinger at guard. Just to scratch the surface. He has had some of the best drafts for KC in the last 25+ years. In fact, I would challenge you to show me anyone in the league that has drafted better in the last 4 years( other than Seattle of course, lol)

Dorsey has been great at drafting.

IMO, he's as good a GM as they come.

Frosty · 08-17-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I rewatched the game this morning. Our Offensive line is gonna be amazing the biggest addition as I said when we signed him was the RT Schwartz. Alex and Foles had more time to go through the progressions not running around for their lives.

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

Part of why you get blasted is the BS in bold above. Name one person that didn't think Schwartz would be a huge addition. However, they didn't all create threads to pat themselves on the back for their Captain Obvious "takes".

JMO

bricks · 08-17-2016, 12:37 PM

I think John Dorsey has done an excellent job with respect to drafting over the past years.
As a result, our player personnel is getting better starting wise and depth wise.

However, I still don't feel optimistic and hopeful that the Chiefs will win a SuperBowl.

The problem with this team lies within the coaching and quarterback.

Even though Alex Smith is a winner, I never seen him as a guy that could carry a team through controversy. If the Chiefs are losing, forget it. Their chances of coming back to win a football game aren't good. Alex Smith isnt the guy that will be engineering game tying or winning drives. He is the main reason why the Chiefs aren't a come from behind team.

Combine that with the fact the Chiefs have a coach in Andy Reid that doesn't know how to manage a game clock or call sensible plays at the right time when needed be and also Sutton can't make defensive adjustments during games.

It's the same sh*t. Don't forget this folks. Let's keep this reality in perspective and remember these are the reasons the Chiefs won't win a SuperBowl under this regime.

08-14-2016, 08:25 AM
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Ok these were my impressions of the game and how I think we look so far I haven't posted in a while but I just wanted to tell you what I saw yesterday. I know there is work to be done but this is what I think so far. I rewatched the game this morning. Our Offensive line is gonna be amazing the biggest addition as I said when we signed him was the RT Schwartz. Alex and Foles had more time to go through the progressions not running around for their lives. The kicker Santos is coming into his own. He kicked a 58 yarder with ease. Him with colquit and hill and DAT or Knile makes our special teams dangerous. I think the O is gonna be light years better our RB depth is crazy good. The WRs are way better. It's not gonna be just kelcie, Charles, and Macklin anymore. This O has many weapons and can attack you many ways. The addition of Foles was very smart . Unfortunately the young Qbs aren't ready yet it will be interesting to see which one they trade or cut and which ones they keep. Yes the D is gonna struggle at first with the young CBs but they are all talented and by mid season this D is gonna be scary. The addition of Chris Jones is looking like we got the steal of the draft. In fact this entire draft looks like one of Dorsey's best. Especially as I said at the time like the additions of the CB DJ White and LB Dadi Nicholas both raw but extremely talented. This is the most complete Chiefs team I've seen in years. Yes there are questions right now what team doesn't have them at this time of the year. However look at Dorsey he's showing to be a great GM. Remember he took over a 2-14 team that was gutted with no real depth and an inept O. To turn around with three winning seasons and two playoff appearances. Even ending the playoff winning draught. I know I'll probably be blasted for these comments saying I have rose colored glasses on but I have faith in this team and with the right breaks this is a championship caliber team. How many times have really been able to say that? Last edited by chiefscafan; 08-14-2016 at 08:56 AM..
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08-16-2016, 07:50 AM	#46
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6649447	Andy and Sutton need to turn the OLB position into a full on open competition these next couple weeks IMO. Put some pressure on Ford. Cause we can't field that crap that he put on tape Saturday. Let the best man win and start across Hali week 1.
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08-17-2016, 12:37 PM	#60
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	I think John Dorsey has done an excellent job with respect to drafting over the past years. As a result, our player personnel is getting better starting wise and depth wise. However, I still don't feel optimistic and hopeful that the Chiefs will win a SuperBowl. The problem with this team lies within the coaching and quarterback. Even though Alex Smith is a winner, I never seen him as a guy that could carry a team through controversy. If the Chiefs are losing, forget it. Their chances of coming back to win a football game aren't good. Alex Smith isnt the guy that will be engineering game tying or winning drives. He is the main reason why the Chiefs aren't a come from behind team. Combine that with the fact the Chiefs have a coach in Andy Reid that doesn't know how to manage a game clock or call sensible plays at the right time when needed be and also Sutton can't make defensive adjustments during games. It's the same sh*t. Don't forget this folks. Let's keep this reality in perspective and remember these are the reasons the Chiefs won't win a SuperBowl under this regime.
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