OP or LS?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

We are about to be in the market to buy a house. My wife is leaning Lee's Summit (my parents live there, no thanks lol jk) but not sold on yet. I'm set on Overland Park.

Settle this, CP.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

We just love KC. We have one kid, we plan on having more. Schools are shit here. Better place to raise a family back in KC to us. Phoenix is ok...to visit. But that's it. Dirty place overall. But I see why people would like it. Different strokes. We prefer four seasons actually as crazy as it sounds lol. It'll probably change when we retire like every other old couple.

I don't know Phoenix well but I thought that Scottsdale was basically like Johnson County, minus the harsh winters.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Brownback is simply destroying the Kansas educational system with his tax cuts aimed at helping small business owners. It worked literally the opposite as he sold it, and now he's bleeding the public school districts to make up the shortfall in revenue, forcing these districts to beg to raise taxes in their said districts. It's a mess. I wouldn't live in Kansas with a small child on a dare right now.



That said, Blue Valley still is a very highly regarded school district right now, but for how long remains to be seen. There is an exodus beginning of teachers leaving Kansas for Missouri (and Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado.....). Do some serious research on the subject if Johnson County is your dream location.

This. Brown back has created his tax free Republican utopia. it's not going well.

His legislature is also threatening to impeach Supreme Court members for making rulings the legislature dislikes (like ruling it unconstitutional for the state leg to fail to find schools as agreed upon).

Oh, and then there are the hikes on sales tax, including food, to try to make up the shortfalls - which pass more tax burden to the people who can least afford it.

The city of Overland Park is also facing budgetary issues, I'm told. It has skated by for years on annexing new locales to make up for lack of business tax revenue (due to sweetheart deals to entice businesses to OP). There's nowhere left to expand now...

[BWillie]

I don't understand why this is even a question. Lees Summit is still in Missouri is it not? Seems like OP is a no brainer.

[loochy]

F that

Head for west Independence mate

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't know Phoenix well but I thought that Scottsdale was basically like Johnson County, minus the harsh winters.

Kansas City does not have harsh winters.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Brownback is simply destroying the Kansas educational system with his tax cuts aimed at helping small business owners. It worked literally the opposite as he sold it, and now he's bleeding the public school districts to make up the shortfall in revenue, forcing these districts to beg to raise taxes in their said districts. It's a mess. I wouldn't live in Kansas with a small child on a dare right now.

That said, Blue Valley still is a very highly regarded school district right now, but for how long remains to be seen. There is an exodus beginning of teachers leaving Kansas for Missouri (and Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado.....). Do some serious research on the subject if Johnson County is your dream location.

Still, 4.3% unemployment rate in Kansas.

I think public school system needs a complete overhaul, and funding needs to be curtailed. In almost every state. So, I'm fine with Brownback's initiative to cut school spending. Just not the way it's done now. It's not a great model to start off with. It's highly inefficient. Kansas spends around 14k per student, and that isn't enough? GTFO.

What I don't agree with is cutting teacher salary. The #1 key IMO to encourage learning is the teacher. The teacher needs to not only be smart, but enthusiastic and engaging. You could easily SAVE tons of money by paying teachers more and drastically lowering the infrastructure costs for schools. Every class doesn't need 25 ipads. There is already too much showmanship. The goal is to LEARN. I think you could even lower costs and IMPROVE the quality of education by utilizing a TA system where good high school student mentors get high school credit & pay (at their option) by helping out local elementary & middle schools. This would enable schools to have less actual teachers, but much better and higher paid ones. This would result in somewhat larger classes, but higher engagement. And less cost.

I didn't learn anymore or any less because my school was or wasn't a state of art building, or amazing architecture. The #1 thing that helped me learn, by far, was the instructor or teacher. We need to be more practical. More on teachers, more on people, and WAAAAAY less on infrastructure. We need to think differently on how to be not only more efficient but better educators.

[BigBeauford]

Part of the problem is the ridiculous amount of administration staff, and how much they get paid. I heard a piece that said Shawnee Mission School District has 70 something employees who make 6 figures, none are teachers


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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I think public school system needs a complete overhaul, and funding needs to be curtailed. In almost every state.

Your myopic stupidity knows no bounds

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Kansas City does not have harsh winters.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Part of the problem is the ridiculous amount of administration staff, and how much they get paid. I heard a piece that said Shawnee Mission School District has 70 something employees who make 6 figures, none are teachers


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Agreed.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Am I missing a bit of lexicon here? Like the sunny and 70 in Olathe?

[TribalElder]

Kansas is a glowing bomb of AIDS that has people so ignorant they re-elected the devil himself. Both Olathe and BlueValley have had superintendents quit and flee the state. Teachers are getting screwed over right and left. I would not listen to the forked tongues of the beakers, stay in Missouri

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Your myopic stupidity knows no bounds

I get what he's trying to say though. They just keep throwing money at the problem, but money isn't always the solution. Sure, it could help, but it seems like a lot of bad operational choices are made.

Maybe these school districts or departments of education need to hire some black belts to come in and find places to cut out the fat.

[BeMyValentine]

So Missouri people are saying LS and Kansas people say OP, interesting

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by BeMyValentine

So Missouri people are saying LS and Kansas people say OP, interesting

Not true. Some of us have said, "live where you work." But we've encouraged his to consider things like, family, schools (which are a wash IMO), the airport (if something that happens a lot), and even traffic (if you can't stand traffic).

I've lived in both OP and LS, and while I prefer LS over OP, I hate traffic with a passion, but I don't want to live on a farm to avoid it either. I'm neither tied to LS, nor would it be a lock if I were moving here today.

I think his biggest decision will be based on family, for his kids that's going to be HUGE!