Conspiracy, the Paranormal, the Unexplained and the Esoteric

[keg in kc]

Figure this would have a better chance of surviving in the Media Center than on the main page, and I'll be adding youtube and podcast links from time to time as I come across them, so it fits.

This has been something that's interested me from a very young age, all aspects of mysterious stuff, whether we're talking forgotten or forbidden archeology or civilization (Atlantis, pre-colombian exploration of america, etc), unexplained events (like Tunguska in 1908, the lost Roanoke Island colony, etc), paranormal events like ghosts, the study of ESP and that sort of thing, conspiracy (ranging from JFK to stuff like the perpetration of the drug war and the infilitration of the media by US intelligence) and, of course, UFOs (which to me means "unexplained" not "extraterrestrial" but that's a whole other topic).

Anything could show up, and everybody should feel free to add whatever they like. Just try to keep it as civil and respectful as possible. This is not intended to be a DC thread; it's as much for entertainment purposes as it is to solve all the world's mysteries.

**Although if anybody posts anything from Third Phase of Moon they should probably expect me to kick them in the balls.**

Few things I like to watch or listen to in no particular order (most of this can be found on itunes as well...):

The Paracast
Binall of America
The Gralian Report
The Paranormal Report
Dark City
Radio Misterioso
Open Minds (mostly their podcast)

That's it for now, just wanted to get this started. Been thinking about doing it for a while...

[Simply Red]

Hey Keg,

I watched the one they did on Halloween. Actually i love Halloween for some reason. I always watch a bunch of horror flicks that night on the 31st of October. But yeah - those seem good - I'll keep an eye on this thread and watch the Podcast suggestions from time-to-time.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Valiant

If we do not kill ourselves/planet. yes.

Maybe within the next 100 years if we quit skimping on funding. Though a lot of those first flights will be death flights.

I think we will need some sort of new take on magnetic propulsion for sustained flight in space. It would also double hopefully as some sort of shield to block small speeding shit in space and radiation.

Great.


If you believe that we will eventually travel light years away, it should be easy to believe that an Alien race that has been evolving for millions, if not billions of years before us can, too!

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Are you speaking of the abandoned Insane Asylum inbetween Arrowhead working toward Raytown?

No, he's talking about the historical jail on the Independence square.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by phisherman

No, he's talking about the historical jail on the Independence square.

Yup this one...

[Fish]

The Voynich Manuscript has always fascinated me.

The Voynich manuscript is an illustrated codex hand-written in an unknown writing system. The vellum in the book pages has been carbon-dated to the early 15th century (1404–1438), and may have been composed in Northern Italy during the Italian Renaissance. The manuscript is named after Wilfrid Voynich, a Polish book dealer who purchased it in 1912.

The pages of the codex are vellum. Some of the pages are missing, but about 240 remain. The text is written from left to right, and most of the pages have illustrations or diagrams.

The Voynich manuscript has been studied by many professional and amateur cryptographers, including American and British codebreakers from both World War I and World War II. No one has yet succeeded in deciphering the text, and it has become a famous case in the history of cryptography. The mystery of the meaning and origin of the manuscript has excited the popular imagination, making the manuscript the subject of novels and speculation. None of the many hypotheses proposed over the last hundred years has yet been independently verified.

Hi Res shots of the whole thing: http://brbl-dl.library.yale.edu/vufind/Record/3519597

Some of the aspects of this are pretty freaky.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Yup this one...

oh okay - never knew of it.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

oh okay - never knew of it.

Very old Jackson Co. jail, downtown Indep....actually a really awesome place with a shitload of history...and some ghosts lol.

[Buck]

These are good resources too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries
https://www.reddit.com/r/unexplainedphotos

Note that it's reddit, so some of the things, especially in unexplainedphotos are stupid, but still lots of good stuff.

[bevischief]

About time some of you wake up.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

Used to listen to Coast to Coast AM when I used to work crazy shifts in the mid 2000's. Great show but commercials way too long. Jesse Venura's conspiracy theory was a great show. H2 has become the Ancient Aliens channel, used to love that show, they have just driven that into shit.

lol, yeah, when they cant explain something, its has to be aliens did it!. Some of the stuff is good, but other stuff they are reaching on sooo much. That Psuedo Science at its best. There is this documentary on youtube bebunching alot of Ancient Aliens claims on youtube. its pretty hilarous...

Let me try to find the link.



its super long, but it does like the first 3 seasons i think.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by notorious

Great.


If you believe that we will eventually travel light years away, it should be easy to believe that an Alien race that has been evolving for millions, if not billions of years before us can, too!

You are missing the point of how unimaginably big the universe is. Even with them traveling faster the odds of them finding us are basically zero. Us even moving light years out is nothing.

[Rausch]

After watching the Mothman Prophecies movie again I looked in to it a bit and was far more interested by the Derenberger (Indrid Cold) story. The movie makes it seem like the two events are directly tied together but they're not.

The book (of the same name) is by far more bizarre, creepy, and details a wide variety of oddities in the area during the Mothman sightings.

The basics on his story:
http://martinjclemens.com/the-many-f...rger-incident/

An interview with the man himself the day after his sighting:


Keel talks a little about it in his Mothman book:
http://forteania.blogspot.com/2014/0...drid-cold.html

A more detailed summary: http://mythbuster.hubpages.com/hub/Indrid-Cold

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

Used to listen to Coast to Coast AM when I used to work crazy shifts in the mid 2000's. Great show but commercials way too long. Jesse Venura's conspiracy theory was a great show. H2 has become the Ancient Aliens channel, used to love that show, they have just driven that into shit.

I'm still a streamlink member (c2c). I'm not the biggest Noory fan but he delivers a decent show once or twice a week on average. As long as it's not some new agey consciousness crap or the near death experience stuff that bores the shit out of me. The George Knapp shows on Sundays the 2nd half of the month are always good. Tonight he had a guy talking about the Dark Net and the silk road which I enjoyed. A few days ago Noory had a guy talking about legalization of drugs and the history of the drug war including stories about the life and death of jazz great Billie Holiday that I found to be really fascinating. It's not always woowoos and whackos...

Art Bell should be back on the air in June, his Sirius non-compete is up I think. He's still hands down the best interviewer out of all of them, although I'm not sure how successful he'll be courting either guests or listeners this time.

[rocknrolla]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm still a streamlink member (c2c). I'm not the biggest Noory fan but he delivers a decent show once or twice a week on average. As long as it's not some new agey consciousness crap or the near death experience stuff that bores the shit out of me. The George Knapp shows on Sundays the 2nd half of the month are always good. Tonight he had a guy talking about the Dark Net and the silk road which I enjoyed. A few days ago Noory had a guy talking about legalization of drugs and the history of the drug war including stories about the life and death of jazz great Billie Holiday that I found to be really fascinating. It's not always woowoos and whackos...

Art Bell should be back on the air in June, his Sirius non-compete is up I think. He's still hands down the best interviewer out of all of them, although I'm not sure how successful he'll be courting either guests or listeners this time.

I agree Art Bell is great. I started listening to it just as he was leaving full time. Then they had a couple of hours of his repeats on I think Saturdays, he is much better than Noory. I haven't heard the show in years though.

[Easy 6]

This is what I will say about ufo's, I have no less than atleast 10 experiences that I consider to absolutely be either something not of this world or dimension or glimpses of American technology far beyond what the public knows about.

One of the last ones happened in the winter of 07 in a small park outside of Riverton, Il... for the sake of brevity, this craft was absolutely no more than 50 meters from me, probably even less, I could have thrown a rock and hit it with very little effort.

It was well below treetop level and following the course of the river that ran through the park, it was black and about as wide and long as 3 full size SUV's side by side, its shape was like a semi-flattened egg with the pointier edge forward but the back end was flat.

It had two massive round lights on the flat backside, one red and one white and they were quite bright... it wafted by me as silently as a balloon would drifting on a soft breeze, about 15 mph. No sound of any kind, no humming or buzzing or anything that would accompany any known propulsion system.

Before this thing appeared on the river, I'd spent a good 10-15 minutes observing something very high up tracing impossibly huge arcs across the night sky, the distances covered in an instant were crazy, at impossible speeds changing from blue to green to purple as it went.

This was just the closest in proximity incident, but others were just as visible and incredible, one of them, my first experience, the craft was being chased by an F-16 from the nearby national guard air wing.

Why do I feel I'm a credible and qualified observer that isnt seeing little green men at every little thing, or mistaking swamp gas for alien craft?

I spent three years watching the aurora borealis, I've seen lenticular clouds and sun dogs, I've seen those huge hollywood style spotlights that wave around the sky at movie premieres bouncing off of low clouds, I've tracked the path of satellites in the night sky both with the naked eye and night vision goggles, I've seen multiple, extremely bright military flares slowly float to the ground.

I've seen the aircraft listed below do atleast some mix of the following, and in most cases I've seen them do all of these things... take off and land, standard flight, high speed dives and climbs in afterburner, firing missiles, firing cannons on strafing runs, extreme combat maneuvers, hovering, dropping flares, popping chaf, map of the earth flight etc

Apache
Blackhawk
Chinook
C-130
C-5
F-15
F-16
A-10
MIG
HIP and HIND mockups
Probably forgetting something

Point is, I've witnessed many times our state of the art aircraft in all manner of flight and do believe I know what "belongs" in our skies and what doesnt.

The fact of the matter is that I've witnessed many things that were not made by anyone on this earth, there is in fact something flying around our skies that does not come from "here"... are they from outer space or another dimension parallel to our own?

I dont know, but these days I lean towards the dimensional theory, I do not believe most, and probably all, of them to be "space brothers" interested in saving mankind from itself like one so often reads, they have done nothing to warrant such a belief.

But something very real is here, and thats fact.