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Sucky · 08-04-2012, 03:02 PM

Personally I think it should be, I drove home last night and blew a .10 and was perfectly fine driving ( my buddy owns a breathilizer)

Just wondering what you folks think

**Donger** · 08-04-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky

how come I was successfully able to handle a car at .10 then ?

Because you were lucky and/or no situations arose where your impairment (and reduction in reaction times) caused an accident. Also, you don't know that you were handling the car fine.

You ARE aware that alcohol impairs one's judgment and reaction times, yes?

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-04-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20

Might as well play devil's advocate.

Let's get off our high horse, morality police. Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways? Driving drunk AND driving at high speeds? Yes, of course... but what about driving drunk on 35 mph roads? What then? Especially in regard to fatalities. Which is more dangerous? I know what we are wired to believe, but if we really are trying to protect our fellow American citizens, why not take away the convenience of high speed? Set the max limits at 35-40MPH. I guess it's because we can rationalize one convenience and not the other.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-04-2012, 04:03 PM

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**Donger** · 08-04-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20

Are we to say that drinking and driving is definitively more dangerous than sober driving at 75-80 mph on crowded highways?

Yes.

BoneKrusher · 08-04-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky

Personally I think it should be, I drove home last night and blew a .10 and was perfectly fine driving ( my buddy owns a breathilizer)

i used to think i was driving fine while loaded until one of my buddies video taped me.
i wasn't, that straightened my ass out about drinking and driving.

**Rain Man** · 08-04-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i used to think i was driving fine while loaded until one of my buddies video taped me.
i wasn't, that straightened my ass out about drinking and driving.

That's pretty cool. Was he in the car taping you, or did you do some sort of driving test in a parking lot? And what about that changed your attitude?

barry_smilez20 · 08-04-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

So you're suggesting that we lower the speed limit universally so that drunk people can drive? Or am I missing your point?

No. It should still be illegal. But the people who get really passionate against it are misled. Speed kills. They should fight that battle, but they won't. Nobody wants to drive slow. It's ironic

barry_smilez20 · 08-04-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Yes.

I mean in terms of fatalities.

**DaFace** · 08-04-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20

No. It should still be illegal. But the people who get really passionate against it are misled. Speed kills. They should fight that battle, but they won't. Nobody wants to drive slow. It's ironic

Interesting factoid that I dug up out of curiosity: roughly one-fourth of traffic fatalities occur on roads with speed limits of 35mph or less. It's higher at high speeds, but not dramatically so; roughly one-third of traffic fatalities occur on roads with speed limits of 55mph or higher.

So basically, unless you've got some source you're using that says otherwise, speed is only slightly correlated with traffic fatalities.

Data source here if anyone cares:
http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...atalities.html

**Donger** · 08-04-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_smilez20

No. It should still be illegal. But the people who get really passionate against it are misled. Speed kills. They should fight that battle, but they won't. Nobody wants to drive slow. It's ironic

No. Acceleration kills and resulting damage kills. And, if two drunks hit each other head on at 35 mph, that is the equivalent acceleration of a single person hitting a bridge at 70 mph.

BoneKrusher · 08-04-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

That's pretty cool. Was he in the car taping you, or did you do some sort of driving test in a parking lot? And what about that changed your attitude?

he was the in a car behind me,
we left a club where he was taping a set of a band i was gigging with.
they tried to take my keys (i wouldn't have any of that) and i took off thinking i was fine.
the next day i saw the clip, i was all over the road. thankfully it was late at night and very little traffic on a two lane road.

Setsuna · 08-04-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i used to think i was driving fine while loaded until one of my buddies video taped me.
i wasn't, that straightened my ass out about drinking and driving.

That should be a requirement for all people turning 21. That would definitely be a deterrent. I think you should really try to get that out there to people that can champion it.

barry_smilez20 · 08-04-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Interesting factoid that I dug up out of curiosity: roughly one-fourth of traffic fatalities occur on roads with speed limits of 35mph or less. It's higher at high speeds, but not dramatically so; roughly one-third of traffic fatalities occur on roads with speed limits of 55mph or higher.

That is interesting. Good stat. I might be inclined to believe that many of those are one car accidents (Darwin if driving drunk) or that they were driving 50+. Theoretically, the 35 MPH roads would be <20 MPH roads. That whole revoke the license for twice the limit might change some minds. Maybe.

FTR, Im not proposing anything.

mr. tegu · 08-04-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

That should be a requirement for all people turning 21. That would definitely be a deterrent. I think you should really try to get that out there to people that can champion it.

You want more people out driving drunk? How about this, if you are drunk, don't drive. It isn't hard.

Cephalic Trauma · 08-04-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, not really.

The science behind it is fairly well established to this point. For the average person, their reactions begin to suffer recognizable impairment at .08.

I'm not going to get into a debate as to the "I was fine" element because it's irrelevant what an individual claims. There are 12 yr olds that are better drivers than people in their 30s - that doesn't mean I'm lowering the driving age to 12 any time soon.

Laws have to be written with the average impact in mind. After a fair amount of scientific study it was shown that a BAC of .08 is sufficient to impair reaction times. That's good enough for me.

QFT

OP, n=1 in this instance. Research says you're wrong

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