Football Updated College Polls! - Page 4

**DaKCMan AP** · 04:04 PM

BCS
1. Alabama .981
2. Texas Tech .972
3. Texas .880
4. Florida .864
5. Oklahoma .844
6. USC .790
7. Utah .769
8. Penn State .684
9. Boise State .678
10. Georgia .616
11. ohio state
12. Missouri
13. Oklahoma State
14. Ball State
15. Michigan state
16. North Carolina
17. BYU
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Tulsa
24. Wake Forest
25. South Carolina

Harris Poll
1. Alabama (75)
2. Texas Tech (38)
3. Florida (1)
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. BYU
15. Ball State
16. Michigan State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Tulsa
23. Cincinnati
24. South Carolina
25. California

Coaches Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (17)
3. Florida
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas
6. Southern California
7. Utah
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Missouri
12. Georgia
13. Oklahoma State
14. Brigham Young
15. Michigan State
16. Ball State
17. North Carolina
18. TCU
19. Florida State
20. LSU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. South Carolina
24. Tulsa
25. Oregon State

AP Poll
1. Alabama (44)
2. Texas Tech (21)
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. Southern California
7. Penn State
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Oklahoma State
12. Missouri
13. Georgia
14. Ball state
15. TCU
16. BYU
17. North Carolina
18. Michigan State
19. LSU
20. Florida State
21. Pittsburgh
22. Cincinnati
23. Oregon St.
24. South Carolina
25. Tulsa

**Saul Good** · 11-09-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I'm just stating that the computer polls dislike Florida. Florida is #3 in both human polls which make up 2/3 of the BCS standings yet the computers drop them to #4.

I think the biggest question is who voted Florida #1 in the Harris Poll? Either way, Florida has no business being ahead of Texas. Texas has better wins and a better loss. Florida has some good wins, but they don't have a win against a top notch team. Texas has wins against Missouri, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma. No team in the country has as many great wins. If every team in the country winds up with 1 loss, the winner of the Big 12 South deserves a title shot against the winner of the SEC.

No team from the SEC should be in the title game with 2 losses, though. Last year was a travesty. That was basically a season without a national champion.

**Saul Good** · 11-09-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Do you honestly think I care? Do you know how good it feels to win an Orange Bowl? KU could do nothing for like 5 years in football, and I'd still be fairly content.

See you in 6.

Frazod · 11-09-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Do you honestly think I care? Do you know how good it feels to win an Orange Bowl? KU could do nothing for like 5 years in football, and I'd still be fairly content.

Yes. Living proof that a do-nothing, beat-nobody bunch of losers can still enjoy the occasional free ride.

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-09-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I think the biggest question is who voted Florida #1 in the Harris Poll? Either way, Florida has no business being ahead of Texas. Texas has better wins and a better loss. Florida has some good wins, but they don't have a win against a top notch team. Texas has wins against Missouri, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma. No team in the country has as many great wins. If every team in the country winds up with 1 loss, the winner of the Big 12 South deserves a title shot against the winner of the SEC.

No team from the SEC should be in the title game with 2 losses, though. Last year was a travesty. That was basically a season without a national champion.

Florida doesn't deserve a 1st place vote - yet. However, someone gave it to them last week in the Harris too so I guess that one person is staying consistent.

I'll give you OU, but Florida's beatdown of Georgia is better than Texas' wins over Mizzou and Ok State. If Florida continues to win out then they can make the argument that no team in the country has as many great wins (unless TT runs the table). Winning out would mean Florida beat Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Florida State and Alabama which are all in the current BCS top-25.

**Bearcat** · 11-09-2008, 04:59 PM

Yet another pissing contest between the Big 12 Cripple Division teams....

KC_Connection · 11-09-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Yes. Living proof that a do-nothing, beat-nobody bunch of losers can still enjoy the occasional free ride.

Have fun never winning anything important with MU.

KC_Connection · 11-09-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yet another pissing contest between the Big 12 Cripple Division teams....

Oh, but Frazod started it!

**Saul Good** · 11-09-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Yes. Living proof that a do-nothing, beat-nobody bunch of losers can still enjoy the occasional free ride.

How can KU lose to MU and finish behind MU in the polls last year, yet their fans simultaneously claim that last season's success will carry them through 5 years of mediocrity and rip MU as being a fraud this season. Talk about trying to have it both ways, doesn't MU's season last year (which was superior to KU's season, hence the ranking) give MU a 5 year pass as well?

Meanwhile, MU is a top 12 team in the country and looks to be the class of the Big 12 North for the foreseeable future. Kansas is the same middle-of-the-road program that they have always been, and there's no reason to believe that anything better is in store.

Frazod · 11-09-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Have fun never winning anything important with MU.

You clowns certainly rendered the Orange Bowl unimportant, didn't you? Perhaps they'll just draw names out of a hat this year - God knows they couldn't do any worse you and the Chokies.

KC_Connection · 11-09-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

How can KU lose to MU and finish behind MU in the polls last year

I've never said that KU was a better team than MU last year or this year.

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yet their fans simultaneously claim that last season's success will carry them through 5 years of mediocrity

KU traditionally isn't a strong football program. I'd simply be happy with a bowl every year.

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and rip MU as being a fraud this season.

They were ranked high, and had NC aspirations. They failed, they are the real frauds.

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Talk about trying to have it both ways, doesn't MU's season last year (which was superior to KU's season, hence the ranking) give MU a 5 year pass as well?

It all depends on your expectations for the program.

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Meanwhile, MU is a top 12 team in the country and looks to be the class of the Big 12 North for the foreseeable future. Kansas is the same middle-of-the-road program that they have always been, and there's no reason to believe that anything better is in store.

Getting to back to back bowls is an improvement on what KU was a few years ago. I'll take it.

KC_Connection · 11-09-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

You clowns certainly rendered the Orange Bowl unimportant, didn't you? Perhaps they'll just draw names out of a hat this year - God knows they couldn't do any worse you and the Chokies.

I'll take solace in the fact you guys won't be there. Ever.

**Saul Good** · 11-09-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Florida doesn't deserve a 1st place vote - yet. However, someone gave it to them last week in the Harris too so I guess that one person is staying consistent.

I'll give you OU, but Florida's beatdown of Georgia is better than Texas' wins over Mizzou and Ok State. If Florida continues to win out then they can make the argument that no team in the country has as many great wins (unless TT runs the table). Winning out would mean Florida beat Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Florida State and Alabama which are all in the current BCS top-25.

How does one win against a GA team that is ranked 10th (and barely escaped falling to around 20th by rallying to beat Kentucky) count as better than Texas's wins against the number 11 and 12 teams in the country? How can you possibly defend that position?

You didn't even address their loss. Is a loss at home to a crappy Mississippi team somehow better than a last second loss on the road to the number 2 team in the country?

**Saul Good** · 11-09-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I've never said that KU was a better team than MU last year or this year.

KU traditionally isn't a strong football program. I'd simply be happy with a bowl every year.

They were ranked high, and had NC aspirations. They failed, they are the real frauds.

It all depends on your expectations for the program.

Getting to back to back bowls is an improvement on what KU was a few years ago. I'll take it.

Typical KU fan. It must be great to hold your rivals to standards that so greatly exceed your own standards.

KC_Connection · 11-09-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Typical KU fan. It must be great to hold your rivals to standards that so greatly exceed your own standards.

No, it was MU fans that held their team to such high standards this year. Many of them expected a Big 12 title and a NC shot. They failed. Miserably.

Frazod · 11-09-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'll take solace in the fact you guys won't be there. Ever.

I take solace in our win over you - not backing into a game we didn't deserve because we didn't play anybody (else).

But whatever makes your clit throb, Nancy. Enjoy.

11-09-2008, 11:24 AM
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5684952	Updated College Polls! BCS 1. Alabama .981 2. Texas Tech .972 3. Texas .880 4. Florida .864 5. Oklahoma .844 6. USC .790 7. Utah .769 8. Penn State .684 9. Boise State .678 10. Georgia .616 11. ohio state 12. Missouri 13. Oklahoma State 14. Ball State 15. Michigan state 16. North Carolina 17. BYU 18. TCU 19. Florida State 20. LSU 21. Pittsburgh 22. Cincinnati 23. Tulsa 24. Wake Forest 25. South Carolina Harris Poll 1. Alabama (75) 2. Texas Tech (38) 3. Florida (1) 4. Texas 5. Oklahoma 6. USC 7. Penn State 8. Utah 9. Boise State 10. ohio state 11. Missouri 12. Georgia 13. Oklahoma State 14. BYU 15. Ball State 16. Michigan State 17. North Carolina 18. TCU 19. LSU 20. Florida State 21. Pittsburgh 22. Tulsa 23. Cincinnati 24. South Carolina 25. California Coaches Poll 1. Alabama (44) 2. Texas Tech (17) 3. Florida 4. Oklahoma 5. Texas 6. Southern California 7. Utah 8. Penn State 9. Boise State 10. ohio state 11. Missouri 12. Georgia 13. Oklahoma State 14. Brigham Young 15. Michigan State 16. Ball State 17. North Carolina 18. TCU 19. Florida State 20. LSU 21. Pittsburgh 22. Cincinnati 23. South Carolina 24. Tulsa 25. Oregon State AP Poll 1. Alabama (44) 2. Texas Tech (21) 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Oklahoma 6. Southern California 7. Penn State 8. Utah 9. Boise State 10. ohio state 11. Oklahoma State 12. Missouri 13. Georgia 14. Ball state 15. TCU 16. BYU 17. North Carolina 18. Michigan State 19. LSU 20. Florida State 21. Pittsburgh 22. Cincinnati 23. Oregon St. 24. South Carolina 25. Tulsa Last edited by DaKCMan AP; 11-09-2008 at 04:04 PM..
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