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Old 01-19-2024, 03:13 PM  
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The Raiders are sticking with Pierce as their HC
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:12 PM   #46
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Damn. I was kinda hoping they would go with a retread.

At least they didn’t get Vrabel.
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:18 PM   #47
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Well that's the thing, he's proven he can win games with absolute dogshit at QB.

They'll get a decent one, and they'll be a threat.
Decent does not equal theat.
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:19 PM   #48
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:30 PM   #49
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If I'm a Raider fan, this is the right move and I'm happy

Yeah it was uneven in 23, but they definitely seemed to respond to him... the effort was there
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:34 PM   #50
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Mark swung and missed hard with the last two hires, so I'm cool with him going for second base on this one. It's undeniable the team played better under him once we kicked McDipshit to the curb. Sure the team still has problems particularly on offense, but we also are going in the right direction and have decent draft capital and cap money, unlike Denver and the Chargers, who are both entering cap hell.

Next year should be fun
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:36 PM   #51
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I'm glad opposing teams fans hate him, makes my recent purchase of one of his jerseys worth it
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Old 01-19-2024, 07:04 PM   #52
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You aren't wrong there.

It's like, sure you can rally your troops to turn around a season, but can you plan your own season? Can you adjust to when teams scheme against you with preparation?

It's kind of like the Shaka Smarts of the world who make a deep tournament run and then get a big contract and spend years disappointing after that.
Guys who go from position coach to head coach (while skipping the coordinator step) often have trouble with that sort of thing. And even most of the coordinators have difficulty figuring out how to operate, plan, and coach a team during the offseason as effectively as possible. You can't win a Super Bowl during the offseason but you sure can royally **** up your chances during it.

Kind of funny that the most notable exception to this position coach rule is... Andy Reid.
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Old 01-19-2024, 07:25 PM   #53
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If I'm a Raider fan, this is the right move and I'm happy

Yeah it was uneven in 23, but they definitely seemed to respond to him... the effort was there
They beat the Giants, Jets, Chargers (with Easton Stick), Denver (with Stidham)… and a Chiefs team that played less than inspired football on Christmas Day.
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Old 01-19-2024, 07:28 PM   #55
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The two of you should get together and watch the Chiefs on TV in the playoffs.
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Old 01-19-2024, 07:44 PM   #56
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Probably the right move. Get them a QB and they can cause some trouble.
I know that I may be crazy, but I thought O'Connell showed flashes, and seemed to get better every week.

Honestly, sure, if they can land a marquee QB, do it, but if I was Pierce, I would look for a good QB coach, and and a new OC who can help O'Connell keep improving.
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