"The refs!!!" and generational QBs

[RealSNR]

I've noticed that no matter what Mahomes does, there will always be a portion of opposing NFL fans who are both too stupid and too prideful to bend the knee. The problem for them is Mahomes has accomplished everything he needs to do to be a part of NFL QB Mt. Rushmore before he's even 30 years old, so they're going to latch on to the one bulletproof excuse they have left: The refs!

You saw it with that Kermit Raider fan wearing a Mahomes/ref kissing shirt. Go to any reddit/twatter/facespace/whatever thread and some hater will chime in with "Y no holding callz in teh Super Bowlz???"

Then it occurred to me that many of us were doing the same thing when it was our QBless trainwreck franchise trying to beat Manning, Brady, etc. for years. Even now I think back to that AFCC game and that ****ing horrific fake roughing call on Jones and the no-fumble verdict on Edelman and I can't help but shake my head and think those calls go different ways if we're not playing Brady.

So I guess now that I'm on the other side of things, and the losers who scream REFS! at all of Mahomes' accomplishments are making asses of themselves, I feel like I need to make a time machine and go back and slap myself in the face for being a sourpuss hater.

Are you in the same boat?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

What aren’t you getting about the fact that Mahomes won 2 SBs with mediocre (or worse) defenses? The fact that one was finally good for him doesn’t change the fact he didn’t need them to win; the fraud GOAT always did.

I never disagreed with Mahomes winning a SB with a mediocre defense and an average/slightly above average defense. My disagreement is when you say Mahomes doesn’t need a good defense to win a SB despite him winning this one BECAUSE of the defense. I see how you are taking a jab at Brady and I get it. I also feel like he’s been a beneficiary of many great defenses. But you don’t have to post things that are not factual to build up Mahomes even more.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

But you said he had 1 average defense in 3 Bowls. Why lie? D was elite last year

I said he had one defence that was better than league average of the three yes. Last year’s (6th in the league in defensive DVOA). They were 14th and 16th in the two other years; Brady was not winning SBs with defenses that poor.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

No way Dee Ford is called offsides in that situation if it wasn't Brady... **** Tom Brady.

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

No way Dee Ford is called offsides in that situation if it wasn't Brady... **** Tom Brady.

The roughing the passer shoulder pad touch by Chris Jones was the real evidence

[007]

Who cares. We have Mahomes.