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Old 11-18-2024, 06:02 AM  
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AFC West becoming a serious division again

We all sorta expected it at some point. The Donkeys and Bolts have substantially improved so it looks like the cakewalks of years prior won't be so easy. They would give us the division by like game 8. Not this year even though we are highly likely to close it out again. End of year division games may mean much more this year.

I think it's better for the Chiefs as they have to focus for every game and the proof will be in the results. No easy games.

Then you have the Raiders, who are the Browns or Jets of the West. They have one or two big victories a year like beating the Ravens this year and us last year.

As we finish up 2024 with a Super Bowl march and look at 2025 and beyond, our drafts, the ability to execute in free agency and having a season with fewer injuries will be much more important.

Beating them will be tougher BUT much more rewarding.

Here's to a better overall, more respected AFC West.........
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Old 11-18-2024, 02:14 PM   #46
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I don't mind the Chargers being good. But I would prefer the Cheating Donks to stay bad forever. They deserve nothing but misery for all of their cheating.
My sentiments exactly.

I never had any problem with the Raiders being good when Rich Gannon was brought in as the Raiders starting QB.

Obviously, that sentiment regarding Gannon and Raiders was shared by Chiefs fans at that time by virtue of the fact when Gannon & the Raiders came to Arrowhead, the Chiefs fans would give Gannon applause when Gannon was introduced as the Raiders starting QB.

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Old 11-19-2024, 10:54 AM   #47
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Well, let's take a more practical look at the differences between the Chiefs and Broncos schedules. First of all, the Broncos schedule is a bit more difficult in the fact that you all play the Chiefs twice while the Chiefs play the Broncos twice. That makes your schedule more difficult, but it's not exactly honest to factor that into calculations about the difficulty of schedule.

So, let's dispense with that nonsense and let's also dispense with the nonsense of looking at just games played to date. Let's look at the entirety of the 2024 schedule. Let's also eliminate all common opponents because those will all work out as equivalent.

When we eliminate all common opponents and our head-to-head matchups, we're left with just 3 games each in which we face opponents that the other does not. For 2024 those opponents are San Francisco, Buffalo, and Houston for the Chiefs, and Seattle, NYJ, and Indianapolis for the Broncos. The difference in win totals for those teams is:

Chiefs opponents: 20 wins

Broncos opponents: 13 wins

That is an honest comparison.
I'm quoting myself here because I wanted to make an addendum to my argument.

It is not enough just to compare the number of wins of Chiefs' 2024 opponents to Broncos' 2024 opponents because that comparison lacks any consideration of the schedules played by those opponents. Our respective opponents also play schedules that are harder and easier themselves. So, we should also recognize that not only do the Chiefs play opponents with more wins than the Broncos opponents, but the Chiefs opponents have more wins against more difficult schedules than those Broncos opponents. This could actually be taken even further, but the point is made. The Broncos may only play a couple of different opponents, but their schedule is really much easier.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:01 PM   #48
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I'm quoting myself here because I wanted to make an addendum to my argument.

It is not enough just to compare the number of wins of Chiefs' 2024 opponents to Broncos' 2024 opponents because that comparison lacks any consideration of the schedules played by those opponents. Our respective opponents also play schedules that are harder and easier themselves. So, we should also recognize that not only do the Chiefs play opponents with more wins than the Broncos opponents, but the Chiefs opponents have more wins against more difficult schedules than those Broncos opponents. This could actually be taken even further, but the point is made. The Broncos may only play a couple of different opponents, but their schedule is really much easier.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:12 PM   #49
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Nearly half of the AFC has 4 or fewer wins thru 11 weeks...Chargers only victory over a winning team was the Donks. Donks only victory over a winning team was the Falcons....who were missing half their defense.

Donks winning streak came against teams that were 1-19 during that stretch.

Hard to tell how much either one has improved....

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Old 11-19-2024, 12:33 PM   #50
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Whatever makes you feel better.
This is a pretty poor response from you MHM. I respect you as one of the best Bronco fans that posts on this board. When I present facts, I expect a poster of your caliber to respond with facts and reason. Your above response is neither of those things.

Either I am correct with my argument that the Chiefs face a more difficult schedule, or I am not. If you have more evidence to present that I am wrong, then please submit that evidence. If my rationale is faulty, then please present your rebuttal.
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